7 Replies Latest reply: Nov 16, 2012 11:35 PM by Steven L. Gotz RSS

    weird scene dimension, why is 16:9 equal to 1440:1080??

    Eireannsg1 Community Member

      Just putting together a 1080p movie.

      I set the scene to 1080p, 29.something fps.

      Now checking the scene settings I get 1440:1080. Why?

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        • 1. Re: weird scene dimension, why is 16:9 equal to 1440:1080??
          Steven L. Gotz Community Member

          Because the pixels are not square. You chose to use an HDV setting which has a Pixel Aspect Ratio of 1.333 - check the video section of the picture you posted.

           

          There are only 1440 pixels but they are wider than they are tall, so it only takes 1440 of them to take up the same space as 1920 square pixels. (Let it be all you gurus out there - a more detailed and more accurate explanation might be required, but probably not.)

           

          Why? That is a very long story. If you are not capturing or using HDV, you will want to select a different preset. One with square pixels (Pixel Aspect Ratio of 1.0)

          • 2. Re: weird scene dimension, why is 16:9 equal to 1440:1080??
            Eireannsg1 Community Member

            Thanks Steven,

            I didnt notice that and I dont know why I was using that Pixel Aspect ratio.

            Just selected 1080p HD and thats it.

            Have to check if my Nikon records movies with that strange ratio.

            • 3. Re: weird scene dimension, why is 16:9 equal to 1440:1080??
              Alan Craven Community Member

              HD and HDV are not the same beast! 

               

              Both use a frame whose vertical dimension is  1080 pixels.  The newer "full" HD format uses 1920 square pixels horizontally to give the correct 16x9 frame.  The older HDV format uses 1440 rectangular pixels to achieve the same 16x9, as Steven says.

               

              My guess is your Nikon records the 1920x1080 format, so you need to select an HD preset..

               

              The easy way to generate a correct sequence is the drag a clip onto the "Create New Item" icon ant the bottom right of the Project panel

              • 4. Re: weird scene dimension, why is 16:9 equal to 1440:1080??
                Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                Alan has made a very good point.

                 

                The more I get used to using CS6 (I skipped CS4 and CS5) the more I realize that the initial preset is almost irrelevant other than the part where you decide to capture DV or HDV from tape based cameras.

                 

                I used to create a new project every time I wanted to try out something I read about on the forum, or in preparation to answer a question.

                 

                Lately, I seem to just open "Untitled1.prproj" over and over again, adding in footage and creating new sequences from that footage. Then I don't save it when I am done. I don't care what the project was originally since it does what I want it to do with any footage I feed it.

                 

                However, for many people, I would still suggest picking the right preset, just to avoid confusion.

                • 5. Re: weird scene dimension, why is 16:9 equal to 1440:1080??
                  SAFEHARBOR11 MVP

                  Some math for anyone interested: 1440 x 1.333 = 1920

                   

                  Jeff

                  • 6. Re: weird scene dimension, why is 16:9 equal to 1440:1080??
                    Eireannsg1 Community Member

                    Steven L. Gotz wrote:

                     

                    Lately, I seem to just open "Untitled1.prproj" over and over again, adding in footage and creating new sequences from that footage. Then I don't save it when I am done. I don't care what the project was originally since it does what I want it to do with any footage I feed it.

                     

                     

                    I have got the same bad habit.

                    When I make a new scene / projetct etc I just take whats there and later I never save anything but rhe final video.

                    • 7. Re: weird scene dimension, why is 16:9 equal to 1440:1080??
                      Steven L. Gotz Community Member

                      Oh, don't get me wrong. I save, and save often, and save as, and everything I can do to make sure a project and all of my work is protected when it is one of my own projects. But I often open Premiere Pro just to make sure I am answering a question on the forum correctly. Those I don't save. I just use the same one over and over again.