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1. Re: building professional editing station.
Jeff Bellune Nov 19, 2012 4:30 PM (in response to bandatj)[moved to hardware forum]
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2. Re: building professional editing station.
Alex - DV411 Nov 19, 2012 4:47 PM (in response to bandatj)The need for these 3rd party devices is going the dinosaur way.
Generally you'd need such a device for one of the following reasons:
- capture and output - already extinct with the death of video tape
- monitoring: color (white balance, gamma, levels), fps, defects in the video
A lot of editors still use these devices for the 2nd reason, because a device such as an UltraStudio 4K guarantees WYSIWYG pixel-by-pixel frame-by-frame monitoring, which Premiere Pro does not.
Some still use them to capture from HDMI or SDI cameras or sources that don't have a "back" (recording mechanism) or because that offers better quality.
HTH.
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3. Re: building professional editing station.
John T Smith Nov 19, 2012 5:20 PM (in response to bandatj)>building something small
Small and video editing do not belong in the same sentence
Build a Desktop Video Editing PC
-http://ppbm7.com/index.php/intro-part-1
-http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1098759
-http://forums.adobe.com/thread/878520?tstart=0
-http://forums.adobe.com/thread/815798
-http://www.shawnlam.ca/2012/premiere-pro-cs6-video-editing-computer-build/
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4. Re: building professional editing station.
Alex - DV411 Nov 19, 2012 9:55 PM (in response to John T Smith)Small and video editing do not belong in the same sentence
Gazillions of people editing 4K timelapses on laptops still don't know about it, and who but John will them just how wrong they are?
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5. Re: building professional editing station.
John T Smith Nov 20, 2012 8:18 AM (in response to Alex - DV411)The physical size of a laptop designed for video editing is not the same as "building small" - which I took, rightly or wrongly, as a computer without "robust" hardware... so I posted links for the OP to read
As for a laptop...
Laptop Video Editing PC http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1069742
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6. Re: building professional editing station.
bandatj Nov 21, 2012 5:10 AM (in response to Jeff Bellune)Follow up to my previous question( building editing station).
Hi John T Smith, I understand the fact that video editing is demanding in computing and memory. Thus having top end gear is a necessity for doing professional work.
But my question I have come to realize concerns rendering. When Alex Gerulataitis talks about monitoring, my question would be: does these third party hardware handle rendering? I have read around and heard that with some third party hardware, you get to do live monitoring of the timeline. But does this mean that the hardware is using prerendered footage and displaying it on a multitude of display formats or does it mean that it renders (computes) my time line in real time and allows me to view the result on multiple display formats?
If the second option is true, I figured that, if the ultra studio 4 runs around 1400dollars per unit, I could use it where ever I felt like, with practically any modern computer I feel like. ( Keeping in mind that I could use this for on set monitoring and capturing).
Note* I selected the UltraStudio 4k for illustrative purposes, as it stands at the top end of black magics tools, and it handle all fcp, premiere pro, avid mc, after effects, photoshop, speed grade and also Davinci resolve.
Thanks for the previous responses,they have been insightfull.
P.S. John I will read on your other posts, you seem to have a good view on hardware.
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7. Re: building professional editing station.
John T Smith Nov 21, 2012 8:22 AM (in response to bandatj)The only thing I know about rendering is what is done with an nVidia card, which is explained at
http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2011/02/red-yellow-and-green-render-bars.html
I really don't know what is done by 3rd party hardware
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8. Re: building professional editing station.
Alex - DV411 Nov 21, 2012 3:22 PM (in response to bandatj)When Alex Gerulataitis talks about monitoring, my question would be: does these third party hardware handle rendering?
No, with the exception of format up-, down- cross-conversions and color space conversions, and not all of them do that.
One exception is RedRocket card that handles some of the video processing of Red file formats, and that speeds up rendering and editing. There might be others - but they're more of an exception than a rule.
3rd party hardware used to handle (some) rendering and other editing functions: Truevision Targa cards, DPS PAR, PVR, Velocity; Matrox Digisuite and RTX series cards, some others. All of them are now extinct.
Bottom line is that computers are fast enough to handle most video editing functions so that dedicated hardware is neither practical or necessary.
I have read around and heard that with some third party hardware, you get to do live monitoring of the timeline. But does this mean that the hardware is using prerendered footage and displaying it on a multitude of display formats or does it mean that it renders (computes) my time line in real time and allows me to view the result on multiple display formats?
All current BMD, AJA, Matrox I/O options do not assist with rendering, with the exceptions noted above.
That doesn't mean you can't use something like US4K (sorry I am lazy) on "practically any modern computer" as long as that computer fits the minimum specs for it and for your workflow.
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9. Re: building professional editing station.
bandatj Nov 22, 2012 3:13 AM (in response to Alex - DV411)thanks, very helpful.




