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1. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
P Spier Nov 20, 2012 3:38 PM (in response to Gary Niemeier)In my experience files open as they were last saved.
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2. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
Steve Werner Nov 20, 2012 3:47 PM (in response to Gary Niemeier)I did a little testing, repeatedly saving a facing page document on different spreads and at different magnifications.
If I save the document with a spread fit in window, that spread opens again fit in window.
If I have other magnifications when I save the document, InDesign remembers the magnification, and the spread I was on, but it doesn't center that spread in the window.
If this is important to you (honestly, I don't think most people notice), then when you close a document fit the spread in window when you close the file.
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3. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
Gary Niemeier Nov 20, 2012 3:48 PM (in response to P Spier)Peter, thanks for responding. I just centered a layout, saved it, and when I opened it again, it was down, partway off the page. Even if your method did work, why on Earth should I have to center a spread and save it that way, just to have InDesign open documents in a manner that should be its default behavior? What logic is there to open a file up, down or otherwise not centered in the window, if that's NOT the way you left it? Even when I try zooming in, selecting some text, saving that position, and re-opening the file, the spread has moved when I re-open the file. It's driving me crazy.
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4. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
peter at knowhowpro Nov 20, 2012 3:54 PM (in response to Gary Niemeier)In my complete ignorance of what's possible with scripting, I'll ask scripters who might be watching: Is this is something that might be achieved with a script that runs when a document is saved and closed, and/or one that runs when a document is opened?
Gary Niemeier wrote:
Peter, thanks for responding. I just centered a layout, saved it, and when I opened it again, it was down, partway off the page. Even if your method did work, why on Earth should I have to center a spread and save it that way, just to have InDesign open documents in a manner that should be its default behavior? What logic is there to open a file up, down or otherwise not centered in the window, if that's NOT the way you left it? Even when I try zooming in, selecting some text, saving that position, and re-opening the file, the spread has moved when I re-open the file. It's driving me crazy.
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5. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
Gary Niemeier Nov 20, 2012 3:55 PM (in response to Steve Werner)Steve, thanks for your testing; I appreciate it. You're right that if you save a doc with spread "fit in window" it'll remember that. But let's say that I'm on a big monitor. So I "fit in window" so it's centered, then I "command-minus-sign" to reduce its size to a more workable zoom level. Great: it's still centered. I do some work and save it. When I re-open the file, it remembered the zoom level, but the spread is halfway down off the page and to one side. Why? I'm perfectly willing to jump through a few hoops to make InDesign act the way I want, but in this case it won't even do that. Why does it do this? It makes working feel messy and it feels like a bug. Typographers are detail people, and this behavior is both inexplicable and frustrating. Wouldn't you agree, Steve?
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6. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
Steve Werner Nov 20, 2012 4:06 PM (in response to Gary Niemeier)All I can suggest is that you make a feature request.
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
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7. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
P Spier Nov 20, 2012 4:18 PM (in response to Gary Niemeier)You haven't mentioned your OS, but I'm going to guess Mac. Do you use the application frame? That may be important. It's also possible that you need to trash your prefs. See Replace Your Preferences for a manual method that will allow you to restore the old ones (and your customizations) if it turns out not to help.
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8. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
Gary Niemeier Nov 20, 2012 4:19 PM (in response to Steve Werner)Steve, I will definitely make a feature request. I've been using InDesign since its infancy, and I can honestly say, #1, I've always been grateful and indebted to Adobe for rescuing us from Quark Xpress, and #2, I've enjoyed using InDesign tremendously. As to this particular quirk, I'm pretty sure InDesign didn't used to do this. For instance, my version of CS 2, which I run on an older computer, doesn't exhibit this behavior. And when you open and close dozens of files a day, as I do, the last thing you want to do is have to manually drag your spread back up into the window just so you can continue working on it. I mean, c'mon: I'm pretty sure computers weren't invented to make us perform even more totally unecessary work. I can't work on a spread if half of it is down below my window. This is Interface 101 stuff. Should never have been put out that way. But if they can fix it later on, that's good too. Viva InDesign.
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9. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
Steve Werner Nov 20, 2012 4:21 PM (in response to P Spier)Peter,
I did my testing with the Application Frame on and that was what I found. Mac OS X 10.8.2 and InDesign CS6 8.0.1.
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10. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
Gary Niemeier Nov 20, 2012 4:22 PM (in response to P Spier)Peter, I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8, and I do use the application frame. I'll trash my prefs using your link to see if it make a difference. Thank you.
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11. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
Gary Niemeier Nov 20, 2012 7:55 PM (in response to P Spier)Peter, regarding your manual "replace preferences" method, I did that, and InDesign still moves the spread when it's re-opened (unless I adhere to Steve Werner's limitation of only using "fit in window" before I close it.) If for any reason I zoom out a bit while working, and save it that way, when the file is re-opened, it very much off-center, and cannot really be worked on until I pull it back to a quasi-centered position. I don't think I'm unusual in wanting to work on a spread that's approximately in the middle of my window. There's absolutely no reason for InDesign to move the position of the spread when it's re-opened. It's not a "feature request," as Steve Werner said, it's a bug... Plain and simple. And far from "honestly, I don't think most people notice," I respectfully disagree: I think people notice. I'm hugely appreciative of anyone who helps with these forums, don't get me wrong. Your input, and Steve's input helped me think through this problem. I now firmly believe it's an interface bug, and will request that Adobe fix it in a future release. Thanks again.
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12. Re: When opening a CS 6 doc, why aren't facing pages centered in the window?
P Spier Nov 21, 2012 2:52 AM (in response to Gary Niemeier)I didn't expect the prefs to solve the problem, so I'm not surprised, and I'm pretty oblivious to how files open as I never seem to need the same view I left, but I can appreciate how it would be frustrating for you. Sorry I can't think of anything else.



