15 Replies Latest reply: Jan 21, 2013 2:23 PM by Ceencha RSS

    How Can I make this look better?

    Ceencha Community Member

      Friends,

       

      I don't like the way these "doubled" letters look.  How can I make it look better?

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/368_Roses.jpg

       

      368_Roses.jpg

        • 1. Re: How Can I make this look better?
          markerline Community Member

          As a composition your background elements need to match your foreground elements or vice-versa.  I would use some of the hues in the bg to put into the letters and instead of having a drop-shadow of the yellow letter as orange which is too close to the same hue to visually differentiate, choose something that contrasts more.  Also, do something different with the black outline that you have.  If you need it then perhaps consider making it thinner and applying it to both the foreground letters and the drop-shadow letters separately or as a United object.

          • 2. Re: How Can I make this look better?
            emil emil Community Member

            There was a thread where someone explained in detail but I can't find it so, explained briefly: with the type object selected, in the Appearance panel create a new fill with desired color and move it below Characters, Then apply a transform effects to the fill as shown. You can play with combinations of the Move and copies settings to change the appearance

            Capture.JPG

            • 3. Re: How Can I make this look better?
              Ceencha Community Member

              Oh, thank you so very, very, very much!  Do you think you could find that thread?  If not, I totally understand !!!

              • 4. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                emil emil Community Member

                I looked again but didn't manage to find it, I can help you if you tell me where you have difficulties reproducing may example.

                If your letters are outlined (not live type object) it is still the same. Select only the front paths (you don't need the copies behind) and in the Appearance panel press the second button from left or right at bottom of the panel to create new or duplicate of the fill item. With the lower fill item highlighted,  change its color and using the fx button choose Distort and Transform > Transform and refer to the image in my previous post. 

                • 5. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                  Flannel Jesus Community Member

                  In your example it looks like you did more than what you described, though. The forground gold and background black look as though they're connected -- the steps you listed wouldn't produce that result. They'd produce a background black that is just a copy of the letters. To explain what I mean better, look at the bottom of the r: the bottom corners extend diagonally from the black up to the gold. It creates a 3-D-ish effect, and the steps you gave wouldn't do that.

                  • 6. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                    tromboniator Community Member

                    On the contrary, the description is exactly right. If you zoom in you can see the steps created by the ten copies of the new fill. Smaller move increments and more copies will result in a smoother-looking edge.

                     

                    Transform Effect.png

                    • 7. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                      Flannel Jesus Community Member

                      oh, i didn't realize there was a copies field. interesting.

                      • 8. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                        emil emil Community Member

                        It is the same idea like using a blend with specified step, more steps and shorter distance will make the edge appearance smoother,  but the Blend feature doesn't have an option to blend the shapes using only the color of the back shape .

                         

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                        • 9. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                          Wade_Zimmerman Community Member

                          You can then do something that might work for ou as well.

                           

                          You can add more copies of the second fill (black) and give it ww very small move distance like .01 inch with say forty copies.

                           

                          Then can expand the appearance which will give you outline Text and an image for the Shadow

                           

                          slecting the hadow image you can do a live trace using the preset for Black and White Logo there will be a clipping path around the art but that can be easily selected with the direct select tool and deleted.

                           

                          You get art like this…

                           

                          Screen Shot 2012-11-22 at 10.47.47 AM.png

                          • 10. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                            Steve Fairbairn Community Member

                            The blend method doesn’t seem to present any problems if you use enough steps.

                            Snapshot 2012-11-22 20-58-23.png

                            Use the blend to make the black thickness, then Copy the foremost object, Deselect and Paste to Front. Alter the colour.

                             

                            I tried adding an extra fill to the front object of the blend using the Appearance panel but that produced a strange banded effect to the thickness.

                            Strange that you can’t control blends to blend only colours or only shapes.

                            Reckon it’s time for a feature request.

                            • 11. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                              Ceencha Community Member

                              Friends,

                               

                              Does anybody know how he was able to get the "glow" on this?

                               

                              940_GLOW.jpg

                              The letters seem to GLOW --- how does one do that ?

                              • 12. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                                Steve Fairbairn Community Member

                                The text has got a gradient in it.

                                If you look carefully you will see that the colour goes from warm yellow at the top to whitish yellow in the middle and then back to warm yellow at the bottom.

                                To get a gradient to work in live text (that is to say without outlining it) you must open the Appearance panel and select Add New Fill in the panel’s flyout menu.

                                If you don’t mind outlining the type you can apply a gradient the regular way but you would do best to make a compound path of it first.

                                 

                                The other thing that is going on here is the careful choice of colours.

                                The effect is called Simultaneous Contrast.

                                The background colour is nearly (but not quite) a complementary of the yellows in the lettering.

                                • 13. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                                  Ceencha Community Member

                                  YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER !!!!  THANKS !

                                   

                                  Someday, I wish I could learn all the Illustrator tricks: i am a real beginner.

                                  • 14. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                                    Steve Fairbairn Community Member

                                    Pleased to be of assistance. Cheers :-)

                                    • 15. Re: How Can I make this look better?
                                      Ceencha Community Member

                                      Steve said:

                                      "To get a gradient to work in live text (that is to say without outlining it) you must open the Appearance panel and select Add New Fill in the panel’s flyout menu."

                                       

                                      Those are powerful words!  I never would have figured this out myself.  I just would NOT have been able to.

                                       

                                      Again, I cannot thank you enough.  Wow, this forum is AWESOME !!!!!!!

                                       

                                      I don't fully understand what you are talking about, but you gave me just enough knowledge to COMPLETE my task by taking apart each letter (took forever) and adding a gradient to each one.