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1. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
P Spier Nov 22, 2012 6:21 AM (in response to Ceencha)Probably not. If they were created in an earlier version this would be absolutely normal. ID opens legacy files as a copy with (converted) appended to the file name and asks your to save when you close. Once saved from the new version you will only be asked to save again if there is a change. In my opinion it is best to save these legacy files with a new name rather than overwrite the earlier version. Once overwritten you can't go back.
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2. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Nov 22, 2012 7:02 AM (in response to P Spier)They were created with the same exact version I have, and I have already saved them several times in the new version ...
Also, the linked files are very strange, because they don't "link" to anything ...
This is so bizarre ... I'm beginning to think perhaps my friend "flattened" the files somehow??
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3. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Nov 22, 2012 7:03 AM (in response to P Spier)He says he "packaged" them or "preflighted" them — I've never heard of that, but it doesn't sound good --- it was supposed to put all the files in a folder, but many of them are not there, YET, the file still "seems" to work, but the images are not of the highest quality. Until I replace them, that is.
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4. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Nov 22, 2012 7:07 AM (in response to P Spier)http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/367_REPLACED.jpg
Can you see how much higher quality the files are AFTER I replace them? What the heck did my friend do to make the images become of such poor quality?
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5. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Nov 22, 2012 7:09 AM (in response to P Spier)And yet, SOME of the images come out just fine ... very confusing
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6. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
P Spier Nov 22, 2012 7:41 AM (in response to Ceencha)Do the images show as missing in the links panel before you relink? That would certainly make a difference.
"Packaging" is the old method for transfering your files for output and is still the way to send everything to a collablorator. When you package ID makes folder containing a copy of the .indd file and subfolders withthe links and fonts that were used, then updates the links in the copy to point to the new folder.
If links are missing or modified it might trigger a request to save if they are then updated, but otherwise it seems very odd that you would be asked to save if all you do is open the file once it has been saved in your current version. You say they were created in the same version you are using, but that may not really be the case. On the Mac all ID files have the same icon, regardless of version, and sometimes a program update will cause ID to request a save on files that were created in the earlier patch level.
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7. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Nov 22, 2012 7:54 AM (in response to P Spier)The links are not "missing" (there are no errors) — but they are just lower quality until I manually import the graphic, replace, and delete the old one.
Boy, I'm gonna be honest: every time I open up my files, it asks if I want to SAVE even though I have done NOTHING at all. It's astounding how annoying this is ... Maybe I can save out to a different format or something.
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8. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Nov 22, 2012 7:58 AM (in response to P Spier)OK, I exported as IDML.
Then I opened, and it says this:
http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/366_ERROR.jpg
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9. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Nov 22, 2012 8:00 AM (in response to Ceencha)OK, I saved as IDML, then saved as INDD file ... still does the same thing — no matter how many times I open it and save it, it keeps saying, "Do you want to save changes?"
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10. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
P Spier Nov 22, 2012 8:04 AM (in response to Ceencha)I think that error implies a lot of pasted vector content (quite possibly the complex frames around the images). Are all of those images really linked?
I'm not sure waht's going on with the saving. Have you rebooted the computer lately? That would be my first trobleshooting step. Then next would be trashing the prefs: Replace Your Preferences
I can look at the file if you like. I'll send you an upload link in a private message...
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11. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Nov 23, 2012 4:05 AM (in response to P Spier)Dear Peter,
Please IGNORE THE INCORRECT LINKS I just sent you by accident via E-mail.
I am currently in the process of using the drop box you sent. THANKS!
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12. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
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13. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
P Spier Nov 23, 2012 6:33 AM (in response to Ceencha)I'll be taking a look ain a short while...
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14. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
P Spier Nov 23, 2012 9:26 AM (in response to P Spier)OK,
I've done a lot of work to show you how to make this go smoother, I think. The file you sent has a LOT of loose vector art, probably pasted from Illustrator becasue making it in ID would be pretty much impossible: the picture frames and the little bullets. This would account for the error message you got about placing as embedded eps. I copied those elements to Illustrator and saved them as .ai files that can be linked.
On the master page I added some layers, one for the picture frames and one for text, and placed the picture frames on the master (this alyer is above the layer for the photos), then removed the frames from the document pages and moved the text (and initial caps) to the text layer which is above the frames. Finally, I removed the bullets that were placed loose above the strings of non-breaking spaces and placed them inline in place of most of the spaces.
I'll be sending you the sample file and new links shortly.
As far as the request to save, I saw that when I opted to update links on open, but not otherwise. Do you store this stuff on a server? Do you get a message about updating links when you open (you might not if you checked the don't show again box). It could indicate a time synchronization problem between your workstaion and the server. The two large photos were missing, as was one font, but I don't believe that has a bearing.
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15. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
P Spier Nov 23, 2012 9:42 AM (in response to P Spier)And your InDesign is out of date. The last patch for CS5.5 is 7.5.3 and there are significant bug fixes. That might also account for some of your issues...
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16. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Nov 23, 2012 10:56 AM (in response to P Spier)I cannot thank you enough, and I will let you know how it goes.
I cannot thank you enough.
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17. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
Ceencha Oct 2, 2013 6:48 PM (in response to P Spier)Are you saying I can download PATCH 7.5.3 even though I currently only have CS5.5 ?
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18. Re: Every time I open up these files they want to "save" again
P Spier Oct 3, 2013 2:29 AM (in response to Ceencha)CS5.5 is version 7.5 (numbering is pretty confusing), and the last patch was 7.5.3.





