Transcoding to a DVD via Encore
Don't use Encore for transcoding. Export out of PP using an MPEG2-DVD preset, tweaking the settings as desired.
I used Encoe because of authoring. However, I have exported from PP to MPEG2-DVD, but it does not burn direct to the DVD. It saves it as a movie file. I burned a DVD from the movie file and it would not play in a regular DVD player.
Then you probably have a bad disk. Be sure to follow the following three riles when burning.
1. Always use good quality media. Falcon Pro are the best. Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim are also very good. Don't use anything else.
2. Use good quality hardware at the disk's lowest rated burn speed. Sony/NEC (Optiarc) models are excellent burners. Pick one up now if you can, as they recently stopped making them.
3. Use the right format of disk. Some players work better with -R, some with +R. I even had one that worked best with +R/W.
I normally use Verbatim or Sony disks +R. Have not had problems with either. I never burn at maximum speed, i.e. 16x. Usually at 8x. I've been burning to an internal drive, but I do have an older external Sony drive VRD-VC10. Can you answer my insufficient disk space question?
I have exported from PP to MPEG2-DVD, but it does not burn direct to the DVD. It saves it as a movie file. I burned a DVD from the movie file and it would not play in a regular DVD player.
You must add the movie file exported from Premiere to an Encore timeline and author the DVD before burning. Jim is just advocating exporting from Premeire/AME rather than using Encore to do the transcoding to an mpeg2 DVD compatible file.
I cannot find any information in Adobe books or on help to determine how to calculate space required to successfully obtain the 7mb CBR 1 pass option.
The rate of 7MB is too high for the amount of video you want to put on the disk. The CBR/VBR and one pass/two pass is not the problem, but the average data rate.
One bitrate calculator:
With 85 minutes you may not have to go too much lower than 7, depends on such things as audio rate and menu content.
You would still use Encore for the authoring phase. Just Import that MPEG-2 DVD file into an Encore Project, add any Menus, and navigation, if necessary, THEN Burn to Disc from Encore. It is still in the workflow, but that Transcoding is done out of PrPro, instead.
[Edit] Oops, missed Stanley's Reply #5, and only saw his #6. He beat me to it.
Here are some Tutorials
Right side of http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere
A "crash course" http://forums.adobe.com/thread/761834
A Video Primer for Premiere http://forums.adobe.com/thread/498251
Premiere Tutorial http://forums.adobe.com/thread/424009
-and more from Kevin http://forums.adobe.com/message/4714153
Premiere Pro Wiki http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Tutorial HD to SD w/CS4 http://bellunevideo.com/tutorials/CS4_HD2SD/CS4_HD2SD.html
Color correction http://forums.adobe.com/thread/892861
After Effects Tutorials http://www.videocopilot.net/
Surround Sound http://forums.adobe.com/thread/517372
Photo Scaling for Video http://forums.adobe.com/thread/450798
-Too Large May = Crash http://forums.adobe.com/thread/879967
-And another crash report http://forums.adobe.com/thread/973935
Encore Tutorial http://www.precomposed.com/blog/2009/05/encore-tutorial/
And more Encore http://library.creativecow.net/articles/devis_andrew/
And a very simple guide http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith/Encore.txt
John Smith, etal, Thank you for responses. Your numerous links will keep me busy for a while. I need to study more about bitrates with the goal of reducing transcoding time. With 2 passes a video of about 110 minutes could take 8 or more hours. As an interesting point of a problem I experienced with Pro versions prior to CS5 is that a screen saver running in the background could cause the transcoding to crash. I make sure it is always off.
There are plenty of bitrate calculators out there, but I just use 560/minutes=bitrate, so for your exaple 560/85=6.58 and I round down a bit for safety margin, so you ought to be good at 6.5 encode rate, or 6.4 if you think you'll have motion menus or additional overhead, and I would just use CBR at that rate.
As for your computer, 4GB is not helping you at all. If on a desktop, memory is VERY inexpensive right now, get that up to at least 8GB if you can, or even 16GB, will make a big difference in performance.
I have a Core i7-2600 machine and it would encode your project in under 10 minutes, sorry to hear it takes hours for you (could be effects filters adding to the render time?).
So once you export from AME, you will have .m2v video and .wav audio files, and in Encore, use "File > Import As > Timeline" and grab both clips at once. This will also utilize any chapter markers you had in Premiere. Don't be concerned if the size of the video and audio combined exceed disc size - Encore will transcode the .wav to Dolby which takes far less space on the DVD.
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Hi all, would this advice still apply when using Premiere Pro CS6 and Encore CS 6? (Using PP to export to MPEG2-DVD before using Encore to author the DVD I mean)
Yes, same workflow whether CS5, CS5.5, or CS6. Even earlier versions for that matter. Only difference with CS6 is that in AME you can create the Dolby audio when doing the MPEG-2 DVD encode. With older versions, just use the PCM option and Encore will transcode the resulting .wav file to Dolby. Works either way.
Thanks for the easy bitrate formula. I know I have a RAM problem. However, I will need to replace my desktop since I am maxed out at 4gb, or change the motherboard.. To buy a new desktop relates to a new problem in that everything today comes with Windows 8 and Adobe tells me CS5 will not run on Windows 8. One source where I can get windows 7 is Dell. So, I'm caught between two options. Upgrading to CS6 on this computer will not gain anything. Getting a new desktop with Windows 7 and reinstalling CS 5.0 seems to be the best way to go at this time. My video work is strictly for family and our travel. Another option is to do nothing and start transcoding at bedtime with VBR 2 pass and wake up to a finsihed quality product. CS 5.0 serves my needs well.
Not wanting to upgrade to Windows 8 and having PP CS-5.0, I purchased a new computer with Windows 7 64 bit. Ram is 10 gb with a 1tb hard drive. I installed PP 5.0 on the new computer and Encore installed just fine. PP installed with two errors. The first was Entry point not found. Could not be located in the dynamic link library GPUFoundation.dll; and Load library EX startup failed with error 127. The specified procedure couold not be found. I uninstalled PP and reinstalled. Same problem.
10Gig of ram is a really odd number... usual would be 12-or-16, depending on motherboard type
Hardware details might let someone help
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