12 Replies Latest reply: Nov 29, 2012 11:19 PM by Lukas_SouthAfrica RSS

    Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?

    Lukas_SouthAfrica Community Member

      This has been bugging me for a while now - any useful feedback would be appreciated!

        • 1. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
          miss_marple Community Member

          Press T for the text tool and double click on the text.

           

          or

           

          Press T for the text tool, position the mouse cursor over your text and do a right click for edit...

           

          :-) miss_marple

          • 2. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
            Lukas_SouthAfrica Community Member

            Haha yes I know, thanks and sorry, I should've been more specific. I mean without using your mouse/tablet at all.

             

            I'm an advanced user and a shortcut-key addict and I can't seem to find any shortcut to action this.

             

            There is no "Alt + ?" route through the top navigation menus (or then set up your own through the keyboard shortcuts menu), nor can I find a script injection for it anywhere.

             

            Essentially it'd be great if you can edit the text as you duplicate, reorder and rename and apply to your text-layer (we have shortcuts for all of these).

             

            Any ideas?

            • 3. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
              Noel Carboni Community Member

              For what it's worth you can access any menu just by pressing and releasing the Alt key then using menu introducer letters or arrow keys to move around the menus (on a Windows system at least).

               

              You can target different layers by using Alt + [ or Alt + ] key combinations.

               

              That said, offhand I don't know a keyboard shortcut to edit text in a layer.  There may be one, I just don't know.

               

              -Noel

              • 4. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
                Lukas_SouthAfrica Community Member

                Thanks Noel,

                 

                I'm a fan of the menu introducer route and I have gone through the menu items and I can't find any route to 'Edit Type...' (it's not under a menu option at all) as you would find when right-clicking on a section of text.

                 

                Other options I've attempted:

                Creating an action to select a text layer - this does not work as it selects a specific layer, not the 'selected layer' - if that makes sense?

                Also, you can go to Edit » Find and Replace Text..., but this will take ages to target the right layer and change text.

                 

                Finally, I've downloaded the Script references for Photoshop and I'll try to write my first script, inject and assign a shortcut-key to it. Phew.

                 

                I really hope I'm just missing something - otherwise I guess should make peace with it

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                With regards to the Alt + [, Alt + ], thanks, they're some of my favourite shortcuts. I've spent some time optimising key-to-hand architectures for workspeed. If you're interested:

                 

                (this is for Windows keyboards if the backslash is just left of your right shift button, otherwise use the key close to the Enter key)

                 

                If you add a shortcut to each of your undo shortcuts (ctrl+z, ctrl+shift+z; ctrl+alt+z) to your backslash ctrl+/, ctrl+shift+/, ctrl+alt+/    

                [nb: 'Add Shortcut' in your keyboard shortcut menu, not 'Accept' to replace the one with the other]

                 

                This way you will have the undo's on both sides of your keyboard, the one is the reflection of the other. You can leave your hand to the right of the keyboard, near the Enter button and still be able to shift layers, move and reach the all the core shortcuts (except ctrl+tab and alt+tab, but you can action this to your Wacom or mouse).

                 

                You'll work a lot faster and won't look down at your keyboard as much.

                 

                -L

                • 5. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
                  Noel Carboni Community Member

                  Actually, I'm mouse-centric, so I tend to think "mouse first" then "modify with keyboard".  With that mode of thinking the T tool is very natural.

                   

                  However, I fully understand keyboard-centric operation.  I was there once, having worked through the time before mice.  I used Teco and EDT editors, for example on ASCII terminals.

                   

                  More power to you in finding a 100% keyboard approach.  Hopefully there's a secret key combination we just haven't discovered.

                   

                  This touches on a pretty significant difference in how people think and use computers. I'd say more keyboard-centric people have influenced the latest Windows release, for example.  For a mouse-centric person comments like "you'll work faster" don't really apply.  Quite often keyboard-centric people can't understand that.  It's always an interesting debate, because both camps usually think they're doing things "the right way" (when in fact there are multiple "right ways").

                   

                  -Noel

                   

                   

                  P.S., If there actually ISN'T a way to edit text purely by keyboard input, you should request that it be added (assuming there's even one unused key combination remaining).  Adobe usually sees posts in this forum, but they specifically ask for enhancement requests to be submitted on this site:

                   

                  http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family

                  • 6. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
                    Lukas_SouthAfrica Community Member

                    You have a few good points there, Noel.

                     

                    I don't fully agree with that one works either mouse- of keyboard centric as I'm also an illustrator - I'm trying to minimise the time spent off the artboard on toolbars and time spent finding commands or tools - so I'm trying to increase the 'drawing time', if that makes sense? I think of it more in terms two mechanical peripherals trying to work in unison to mimic what you are organically trying to communicate.

                     

                    The keyboard is such an organically-strict tool, I wish there were a more natural peripheral for Photoshop-commands (see how I avoided using the Minority Report as an example? ). For fun, maybe install the exe at IOGraphica.com, it shows your mouse movements, and overlay it on your desktop to see where you spend mot of your time - and then decide for yourself where how you'd like to spend more or less time.

                     

                    I ackknowledge your point, though, and I don't mean to open a can of worms - it is, as you said, always quite a discussion between creatives and we all work uniquely as we are in fact creatives and we all have our preferences.

                     

                    About the Windows thing, I hear you, I'm busy with a Slate app at the moment and it's very different - I haven't made up my mind whether I like the mindset or not! I do like the fact that it's different though.

                     

                    Thanks so much for the link - I shall post it in there and see what they say!

                    • 7. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
                      emil emil Community Member

                      Lukas_SouthAfrica wrote:

                      ...  I'm trying to minimise the time spent off the artboard on toolbars and time spent finding commands or tools - so I'm trying to increase the 'drawing time', if that makes sense?...

                      May be it makes sense for you but the shortcuts you are working on to avoid mouse when editing text doesn't make much sense to me. I simply can't imaging how a combination of shortcuts could be faster than using the mouse (I'm using a pen). Using the mouse automatically selects the text layer and also puts the insertion point in the desired place (click), or selects the desired text range (drag), or selects the text line (double click) or selects all text lines (quadruple click).

                      I can't imagine how all these actions can be done faster with combinations of shortcuts. I also consider myself a shortcuts addict but selecting a layer with shortcuts requires finding the  layer containing the text which in a multiple layer document with complex grouped hierarchy will be a daunting task, then putting the insertion point in the desired place or selecting a text range with the arrow keys while holding Shift seems a lot more work to me comparing to pointing and clicking or dragging with a mouse. At least this is the case on my workspace where the pen is always in my hand even when I type and tablet is right in front and under the keyboard, and I also have a mouse on the right side of the keyboard - all input devices are within easy reach here

                      • 8. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
                        Lukas_SouthAfrica Community Member

                        Thanks for you input, Emil.

                         

                        I agree with you that one can edit easily with you mouse/pen as this is also how I do it. Why I'd like that option available will be to use it in addition to the mouse/pen selection advantages. I find that when doing fine bulk pixel-pushing and corrections with lots of layers, especially when populating blocks of data fields with a website design (and with text layers on top of each other), I have to jump back and forth between selecting and highlighting text with the mouse en editing with my keyboard

                        • 9. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
                          emil emil Community Member

                          I can imagine as useful a hotkey alternative to double clicking the text layer icon with certain repetitive tasks like changing the text on a range of stacked text layers. For example you want to add something in front or back of the text or replace the entire text on a number of text layers on the same layer hierarchy level. The keyboard activity could be Alt+ ] or [ to go to the next layer above or below. Then hitting the feature request hotkey that selects the entire text (Enter is already taken for changing the focus to the font menu but Alt + Enter is available and could be good) then type to replace the text or press left or right arrow and type to add in front or end of the text. In this case such hotkey combination will beat the mouse.

                          • 10. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
                            SG... Employee Hosts

                            Hi Lukas,

                             

                            I think I might have a solution for you involving actions. Create a new action, with a function  key, that records just the double click on the text layer thumbnail. Now toggle the dialog ON option for that action. When I run it via function key on any selected text layer, it activates the text edit mode and highlights the current text string.

                            textEditAction.png

                             

                            I haven't tried anything too extensive so there may be other problems with this method, but it's worth some experimenting.

                             

                            regards,

                            steve

                            • 11. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
                              emil emil Community Member

                              Hmm, before replying to this thread I tried to see if double clicking the icon of a text layer is recorded in the actions and it appeared not to. But now after you posted this I tried again and realized that it is recorded but it works depending on how it is played back. If I click the pay arrow at the bottom of the Actions panel it doesn't select anything but if I double click the action step in the Action panel it does select the text. I didn't try to see if that will be the case with assigning a hotkey.

                              • 12. Re: Is there a way to edit text via shortcut key (and not dbl-clicking on the thumbnail)?
                                Lukas_SouthAfrica Community Member

                                @SG Ah that's great. There are a few issues with it, such as inheritance of current toolbar text-size, but thank you, it's a step closer - I suppose you can apply paragraph styles to it, but that makes the process a bit superfluous. I'll refine it a bit and attempt writing a script for fun.

                                 

                                Thanks, Steve.