I will give that a try. Actually, they work well with the Premiere editor, the only problem I am seeing is they dont show thumbnails in the organizer. They are actually old clips, many of which are not worth keeping anyway, but I was looking forward to using organizer to help me find the keepers. The lack of thumbnails makes that impossible.
Note: I have posted this in the PSE forum as well
I do have Roxio Creator 2010 installed on the same computer. I checked those same files in that software and they all showed up with the red circle with the line thorugh it. When I tried to open them I got a message stating that they could not be edited. This may be a clue to the problem however, I keep going back to the fact that the videos work fine in the PrE editor, including showing the thumbnails in the Project Assets. So I know the codec is on the machine. It is using the AVID codec per Gspot.
Avid as in Pinnacle?
Install a proper mjpeg codec that might give you thumbnails.
Demo is sufficient if you do not want to export as mjpeg.
Thanks. Not sure that is the real problem, but I will give it a try. I keep coming back to the fact that these videos work well and play well in the editor. I have gotten responses that tell me they don't work well, I should convert them, etc. etc., but all of these ignore the fact that it does work in the editor (including thumbnails in the editor). I am trying to figure out why the editor works but not the organizer. I suspect this is a registry issue but I don't know where to begin looking.
If Bill's suggestion doesn't work, then there probably is no solution.
MJPEGs are video files created by still cameras and, as I've said, they're not supported by most higher-end video editors. So you probably won't be able to see the thumbnails in the Organizer.
Did I miss Bill's suggestion?
Also, I know I am starting to sound like a broken record. I also don't want to sound ungrateful to all the people who are offering me advice, but everyone keeps telling me that MJPEG's are not supported yet, other people are telling me they get MJPEG Video clips to show thumbanails and I am getting thumbnails in the Editor and the files can be edited and edited well. I notice no difference between the AVI MJPEGs and the MPEG files in the editor, both work very well. Please stop telling me this is not supported. I know these problems are hard to figure out, so I understand if everyone is as stumped as me. Apparently it is possible to support these files, I just may have the wrong codec or it is installed incorrectly. I know these types of problems are almost impossible to track down, but I am not ready to give up just yet.
What we keep trying to say is that MJPEGs are not officially supported, PhotoCap.
That means that if you see them in your Organizer and can work with them, then it's the luck of your computer's configuration. But if it doesn't work, then it doesn't -- and there's very little chance you can make it work.
So you're welcome to keep banging on this as much as you want. But just know that there are no guarantees.
That is certainly a fair statement and I appreciate your candor. I can be stubborn but you are correct. I have fixed problems like this before and I have problems that never get fixed. If I make it work I will share my results with the forum. If anyone has any crazy ideas to try I am open to them.
I do not use Organizer, but instead Adobe Bridge (included with some other Adobe programs, like Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator and Premiere Pro), or ThumbsPlus (Cerious Software), and find that some AV formats/CODEC's just do not display thumbnails. I have had that issue with some, like MPEG-1 files, some WMV files, almost anything with DivX, or Xvid.
I have not used any MJPEG files, so cannot comment on them, but have helped others Import and edit those (never tried to work with any in Organizer, Bridge or ThumbsPlus), and in those cases, it usually boiled down to having the exact MJPEG CODEC installed. As each camera mfgr. seems intent on tweaking the MJPEG CODEC, it is normally possible to Import and edit, if THAT particular MJPEG CODEC is installed, and usually from the camera's utiltiy disc. Other times, the generic Morgan, or MainConcept MJPEG CODEC's have worked - though that seems to be less often, as Nikon, Panasonic, and others, keep tweaking.
As for the display of any problem AV files, it is usually an inability of the organizing utility to find a proper display, though in some cases, there IS a display, but the first Frame of the AV file is black, with a Dip-to-Black (in this case basically a Fade-in) Transition.
Good luck, and I wish that I had a fail-safe way to always display a thumbnail for ALL AV files, and even better, the ability to set the Poster Frame to what I wanted. So far, no organizer utility, that I have seen, can display thumbs for ALL AV formats - some will handle some AV formats/CODEC's, that others will not, but none has been perfect.
I wanted to thank everyone for their sugestions. After troubleshooting I was able to resolve the issue by updating the DivX codec then selecting "Update Thumbnails." in the organizer.
I now have thumbnails for all my AVI (MJPEG) clips.