7 Replies Latest reply on Dec 8, 2012 5:46 AM by MarieMeyer

    Outputting to a photo minilab

    MarieMeyer Level 1

      Bit of a long story, but I need to output something I've designed in InDesign to a photo minilab. It is text and color graphics. I downloaded the lab's ICC profile.  But I'm not sure what to with it. Can anyone advise me on the correct color management settings to use, and how to prepare the file for sending off to them? I assume JPEG is the best (only?) option for format. I'm using CS4 on a Mac.

        • 1. Re: Outputting to a photo minilab
          Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

          I've never sent an ID layout to a photo minilab, but I would guess you are correct that if you export a jpeg they'll process it just like any other jpeg.

           

          If you know the profile they use for output, I would assign it to the document: Edit > Assign Profiles...  You'll have to install it on the system, first, of course. I'm a Windows user so I could probably figure out how to do that if I were sitting in front of a Mac, but I can't just rattle off how to do it here I'm afraid. Presumably it is RGB, but whatever space, make sure all of your native elements are in that color space, i.e. if the profile is RGB you'll want to define all the colors as RGB and if it's CMYK you'll want to define colors in CMYK.

           

          One useful thing you could do would probably be to choose Web for the intent when you create the file if you need to work in RGB. Doing that defines all of the default swatches as RGB for you.

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          • 2. Re: Outputting to a photo minilab
            MarieMeyer Level 1

            Thanks. I've been doing a bit of Googling on this subject and have read many comments saying the output to JPEG from ID doesn't work very well. The work around is to output to PDF then open that in PS and then out to JPEG to there. Do you know if that is sound advice, or just lore? (I'm using CS4).

            • 3. Re: Outputting to a photo minilab
              Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

              I think for CS4 it's sound advice.

              • 4. Re: Outputting to a photo minilab
                rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                The work around is to output to PDF then open that in PS

                If you export to the PDF/X-4 preset and then open the exported PDF into Photoshop you'll get the option to convert the PDF into AdobeRGB, or if you choose RGB Color, into your current Color Settings' Working RGB space.

                 

                The PDF/X-4 standard forces every object to be profiled, so your ID layout  objects could be RGB or CMYK and they will get correctly converted into your Lab's profile if you set it as the Working RGB space in Photoshop and select RGB Color when you open the PDF.

                • 5. Re: Outputting to a photo minilab
                  MarieMeyer Level 1

                  Thanks Rob, that is interesting. Should I have the minilab's ICC profile set as my working RGB space in InDesign when doing the design?

                  • 6. Re: Outputting to a photo minilab
                    rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    Should I have the minilab's ICC profile set as my working RGB space in InDesign when doing the design?

                    I don't think it matters. You could use your normal RGB editing space (AdobeRGB?) and then any RGB objects would get converted into the Lab's RGB space when you open the PDF into RGB Color. I doubt you would see any appearance change unless you were out on the edge of the Lab's RGB gamut

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                    • 7. Re: Outputting to a photo minilab
                      MarieMeyer Level 1

                      Hi Peter and Rob, just wanted to let you know that it worked - just got my first set of prints back and they turned out perfect. I followed Rob's suggestion re the PDF option, output that to PS, and then converted to JPEGS from there.