8 Replies Latest reply on Dec 7, 2012 10:46 AM by John Mensinger

    Is there a Master or Paragraph rule that would allow me to edit fonts on many pages?

    LouLat62 Level 1

      I'm using InDesign CS4.

      I would like to be able to create a header on a Master that would control the font and size of font on each Header on each page.

      On each page, the wording is different, so there can't be wording... 

      The Headings on each page have a different font than the font in the body of the book.

       

      Is creating a master the best way, or is creating a type of paragraph or paragraph rule the way to go?

       

      I feel there must be a way to make this happen - so if the font needs to be changed, it can be changed from a master or a rule, not having to go to each and every page...

       

      Thanks for your help, Lou

        • 1. Re: Is there a Master or Paragraph rule that would allow me to edit fonts on many pages?
          John Mensinger Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Is creating a master the best way, or is creating a type of paragraph or paragraph rule the way to go?

           

          Use both in combination.

           

          To govern formatting, and to make wholesale changes if needed, use a Paragraph Style. If I read you right, this is synonymous with your term "paragraph rule." The style can include all kinds of format settings, and changes to the style affect every paragraph to which the style's been applied.

           

          To set up a header the way you describe, put it on a Master Page and apply your Paragraph Style. Then, on each appliable document page, Ctrl+Shift+Click the text frame to override the Master item and make it editable from the page, so you can change the text as needed.

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          • 2. Re: Is there a Master or Paragraph rule that would allow me to edit fonts on many pages?
            LouLat62 Level 1

            Thank you for your reply.  In the Paragraph Window, I see Paragraph Rules, Grep Styles, Nested Styles... How do I create and place a Paragraph Style that I can place in a text box on a Master Page?

            Thanks again.

            • 3. Re: Is there a Master or Paragraph rule that would allow me to edit fonts on many pages?
              TᴀW Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              ... Or use text variables if you want your running heads to update

              automatically based on information on the page (e.g. the most recent

              chapter heading, etc.)

               

              Ariel

              • 4. Re: Is there a Master or Paragraph rule that would allow me to edit fonts on many pages?
                LouLat62 Level 1

                No, I just need to be able to adjust the font - it's great having the blank text frame there to use and the tip from John to ctrl, shift, click  to make it the text box live on each page - gold.

                 

                So, working on John's suggestion of creating a paragraph style.. I managed to creat a header-left style... created a new object, then applied it to a paragraph... At least that's what I thought I did, but now I can't create a header-right.  What did I do? What do I do? Help, I'm in schmazel-land.

                • 5. Re: Is there a Master or Paragraph rule that would allow me to edit fonts on many pages?
                  Josh_B_369 Level 1

                  In the Paragraph Styles panel, the dropdown in the top right corner of the panel allows you to edit your paragraph rules as required (just single click your paragraph rule then click the dropdown).

                   

                  If you're trying to duplicate the style and just edit one formatting option of the style then I suggest you "Duplicate Style..." then alter the formatting option you want to change.

                   

                  To apply a paragraph style all you have to do is select the text field, then select the desired paragraph style in the panel. If you're trying to apply different paragraph styles to a text field that appears in a master by applying it to the text field in the page, it may not work. The purpose of a master is to reuse the objects across multiple pages in exactly the same way (although have not tested to see if there is any type of conditional formatting for objects that appear on a master).

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                  • 6. Re: Is there a Master or Paragraph rule that would allow me to edit fonts on many pages?
                    John Mensinger Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    What did I do?

                     

                    Not sure.

                     

                    What do I do?

                     

                    If you still don't have it sorted out, here are some steps to follow, with some assumptions based on info contained in the thread so far:

                     

                    1. Go to your Master Page and set up your header text frame. Type an actual line of text in there, even if it's just "Header goes here" or something like that.
                    2. Format the text the way you want all your headers to look; font, size, etc.
                    3. With the now-formatted text selected, go to the Paragraph Styles panel, (if you don't see it, choose Window > Styles > Paragraph Styles or press Ctrl+F11), and choose New Paragraph Style from the panel menu, (click the menu icon at the top-right corner of the panel to access the panel menu). This will open the Paragraph Style dialog, pre-populated with settings based on your text selection. Give it a name like "Header Left," put a tick on Apply Style to Selection and click OK.
                      1. If you need a Header Right style for the facing Master Page, there are a few ways to get it. Here's one: In the Paragraph Styles panel, right-click on the Header Right style and choose Duplicate Style... to make a copy of it. Now right-click on the new copy and choose Edit Header Right copy... Change its name to Header Left, make whatever other changes you want to the style settings, (primarily Indents and Spacing > Alignment, I should think), and click OK.
                      2. Now you can also duplicate the text frame you made in step 1 by copy/paste or Alt-Drag to the facing page. Put it where you want it and apply the Header Left style.
                    • 7. Re: Is there a Master or Paragraph rule that would allow me to edit fonts on many pages?
                      LouLat62 Level 1

                      Thank you everyone - I'm good to go now - You've saved me hours!

                      • 8. Re: Is there a Master or Paragraph rule that would allow me to edit fonts on many pages?
                        John Mensinger Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                        Thanks for letting us know.

                         

                        Sorry I got Right and Left mixed up a bit there!