6 Replies Latest reply on Dec 9, 2012 12:42 PM by legendofthegoose

    High-end video editing; Mac or PC?

    legendofthegoose Level 1

      Hello,

       

      I need help upgrading my video editing station. My budget is up to about $4k

       

      Here are my current specs:

      27 inch iMac

      Intel Core i7 3.4Ghz Quad-Core

      12 GB (2x2GB,2x4GB 1333 MHz DDR3)

      AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024MB

       

      My workflow is primarily Premiere Pro, editing and exporting high quality HD video from my Canon 60D, sometimes this also includes AE comps. Most often my exports are videos of lectures which run about 20 minutes long.

       

      With my current setup playback and editing is fine, not many hangups rendering or previewing video... However my problem is I'm finding as I do more graphic intensive videos my export time has really increased, and makes me wonder if I've outgrown my iMac... so considering upgrading to the next level of machine that will export video from Premiere faster.

       

      My question; is there a machine that could bring a 30-50%+ increase in export time, and is that machine a Mac or PC?

       

      Additionally, are there specific Adobe speed tests I could run on my machine and compare with other rigs? I use Geekbench to measure performance between other computers, but I'd like something that specifically uses the Adobe products.

       

      I've also considered trying to optimize my current setup (with Thunderbolt external hard drives, Raid or SDD hard drives, more RAM, etc) but wonder if buying a new computer, while more expensive, is better in the long run?

       

      Thanks for any input you can offer!

        • 1. Re: High-end video editing; Mac or PC?
          Harm Millaard Level 7

          If you contact Bill Gehrke directly at ppbm@att.net he can probably direct you to a testing file we are developing to include Mac testing in a future release of PPBM6 or PPBM7. That may give you a very limited insight into your systems performance, due to a lack of comparable data, but anything is better than nothing.

           

          There are numerous options to improve on the performance you currently have.

           

          Go for an i7-3930K CPU, increase memory to 32 GB, use a GTX 660 Ti or better video card, use a dedicated raid controller and multiple disks, but these all entail moving to a PC and I'm not sure you want that.

           

          To see what kind of PC systems work, look at Benchmark Results and to see what kind of build is possible on the PC side, see Planning & Building a NLE System

          • 2. Re: High-end video editing; Mac or PC?
            legendofthegoose Level 1

            Thanks for the response, I'll definitley look into PPBM, should be helpful to have a benchmark utility designed for PP that others are using

             

            I noted your suggestions for a better processor and graphics card etc, and as you observed those all ential moving towards a PC build, which I'm not opposed to but if I'm going to switch to Windows I want the computer to be a large enough increase in speed to warrant the move.

             

            Anyone have experiance with Mac Pro's and Adobe CS? I'm wondering if those 12 core (2x6 core) systems are worth it, or if building a PC with a one, top of the line processor, is better.

             

            A big issue I see is that Mac Pro's don't come with NVIDIA graphic cards, so CUDA support seems out of the question (but I could be wrong?)

            • 3. Re: High-end video editing; Mac or PC?
              needles27 Level 3

              All I can speak about is the Mac side.  I have a MacPro with 8 cores, and I installed a GTX285 (Discontinued, but can be found online for a steal...more bang for the buck than the 4000's in my opinion)  So, CUDA is definitely not out of the question.  Export time is great.

               

              However, conventional wisdom is that the MacPros are going to be updated (long overdue) in the first part of next year...Apple is always tight-lipped about it, but I wouldn't sink a lot of money into a MacPro right now when updates are around the corner.

               

              So, maybe a PC is the right direction for you if you need something right away.

              • 4. Re: High-end video editing; Mac or PC?
                Alex - DV411 Level 2

                My question; is there a machine that could bring a 30-50%+ increase in export time, and is that machine a Mac or PC?

                Either (if you mean decrease, hopefully): the current $1.5K iMac comes with GTX-650M which is supported by Adobe for GPU acceleration, and that will dramatically decrease your export times (with supported codecs - MPEG2, H.264). The $1,999 iMac comes with a better CPU, GPU and up to 32GB RAM - only nobody tested it yet for GPU hardware acceleration AFAIK.

                • 5. Re: High-end video editing; Mac or PC?
                  Jim_Simon Level 8

                  that will dramatically decrease your export times (with supported codecs - MPEG2, H.264).

                   

                  Actually the codec is irrelevant.  It's the effects that are accelerated.  And if any given editor is not using accelerated effects, then CUDA acceleration isn't going to help.

                  • 6. Re: High-end video editing; Mac or PC?
                    legendofthegoose Level 1

                    Haha, yes Alex I meant decrease

                     

                    Good call needles, I think waiting for an upgraded Mac Pro is what I need to do if I want to stay on the Mac side. The PC side does seem to offer quite a few interesting possibilites.

                     

                    A new question I'm having is if dual-processor machines are remarkably better than single processors using adobe products?

                     

                    Also, has anyone had any experiance with thunderbolt external hard drives? Just wondering if adding that to my workflow would help with my export speeds (using them for my OS, export disk, etc). Currently I'm running it all off the 1TB internal HD of my iMac. Also any good beginner (and I mean very beginner) resources on RAID setup for video editing would be awesome.

                     

                    Thanks again for everyone's replies!