13 Replies Latest reply: Dec 11, 2012 1:16 PM by 345Alive RSS

    What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?

    345Alive Community Member

      I have been using PSE9 on our PC and have just switched to using a mac so loaded PSE9 on that and have been discovering quite a few differences, limitations or basic functions just not there.

      At the moment I'm very dissapointed because I had no idea that would be the case, I guess I just assumed it would be better than a pc. I'm obviously going to need to buy more editing software but don't want something for the same price but get less just because it's on a mac.

       

      I do quite a bit of tweaking with PSE9, layers, actions (downloaded of the net), general tweaking, some fun funky stuff.

      Need a better organiser than iphoto.

       

      I would like to be able to batch process too which I can't currently do.

       

      I can get the educational packages.

       

      What would suit those needs best?

        • 1. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
          Barbara B. ACP/MVPs

          I don't understand your post at all. If you are talking about organizer, yes, there are several differences, but the editor is exactly the same on both platforms. Things are in different locations (all printing on a mac happens from editor so that's where the picture package and contact sheet are, for instance), but File>Process Multiple Files is the same on both.

           

          The one big difference would be if you bought PSE 9 via the App store but it's been gone from there since the app store version of PSE 10 came out last year, so I'm quite puzzled by your post.

           

          If you want a different asset management program I would do the trials for Lightroom and Aperture and see which you prefer, then set PSE 9 Editor as your external editor.

          • 2. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
            345Alive Community Member

            Thank you. Yes I guess my question was confusing I'll have a re-think and be more specific.

            • 3. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
              Barbara B. ACP/MVPs

              Another thing to remember that is different on a mac is that the top menu bar is at the top of the screen, not attached to the main PSE window.

              • 4. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                99jon MVP

                Hi Alive,

                 

                 

                PSE9 was the first Organizer for the Mac. It was seen by the industry as a first step but “work in progress”

                 

                Obviously there is some catching up required on the Mac but improvements are gradually being introduced. For example in PSE11 it’s possible to Export new files for the first time. Although the slideshow editor is still confined to Windows. That obviously doesn’t help you immediately and you may need to wait for Adobe to come up with future iterations.

                 

                At present for the Mac I would recommend Picasa (free from Google) as long as you don’t corrupt your Library by also using iPhoto.

                 

                 

                • 5. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                  345Alive Community Member

                  Hi 99jon, Thanks for that. Can you explain what you mean by Picasa corrupting my Library by using iPhoto?

                   

                  These are probably more mac questions than adobe questions but if you can help I'd really appreciate it. I couldn't do what I wanted in iPhoto so started trying to use Finder/Pictures/ and then opening up my photo files (if I could find them) does NOT sort by 'when the photo was taken'. That seems like a basic function to me. They sort by date created and date modified neither useful at all. iphoto on the other hand sorts by 'date taken' but I can't use that becuase my photos don't show back in there once edited in PSE9. I can get them into the Finder/Pictures/ which is why I started missing out iphoto all together but then realised that my folder system I was tyring to make (according to date) wasn't working because it can't sort like that in Finder/Pictures.

                   

                  I do not think I have fully sussed out how photos are stored and are integrated on a mac. It all seems rather mysterious and confusing.

                   

                  Maybe I will just have to faulk out more money and upgrade to PSE11 (I feel ripped off having to do that when it was all working fine and I only bought it a year and a half ago!)

                  • 6. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                    99jon MVP

                     

                    If you have no images in the iPhoto library then there is nothing to worry about. It’s only when you use iPhoto and then start using other programs that the library can get corrupted and you could potentially loose your image files. That’s why when you import from iPhoto into the Elements Organizer the files are duplicated on your hard drive. Barbara always recommends simply exporting copies from iPhoto to add to Organizer. Basically choose either Picasa, Organizer, iPhoto, Aperture or Lightroom etc and stick to the one.

                    • 7. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                      Barbara B. ACP/MVPs

                      Photos are stored on a mac the same way they are in windows, unless you use a program like iphoto, which imports them into a proprietary library. You don't have to use iphoto, you know, if you don't like it. I never do. But if you do use it, you need to understand that the iphoto library is for iphoto's own use, not yours. You should never poke around in it from outside iphoto. If you are going to use iphoto, you must always send your photos from iphoto when you want to use them, either by export or via setting an external editor. Some mac programs (mail.app, pixelmator, for instance) also have a photo browser that lets you choose images from iphoto without having to go directly into iphoto to select them.

                      • 8. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                        345Alive Community Member

                        I had a look at Picasa last night but one function that is really important to me is to be able to sort my photos by the date taken NOT created or modified.  That is because I will be importing loads of photos from over several years to create a photobook. I had a look on discussion forums and that was one caveat that many seemed to have with Picasa - was definately worth a try though so thanks.

                         

                        Finder/pictures on the mac also fails to sort them according to date the actual photo was taken which is crazy - it's such an imortant feature, especially for the main storage area for your photos!

                         

                        I think what I need to work out is a 'work-flow' - I'll post that as another discussion topic.

                        • 9. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                          Barbara B. ACP/MVPs

                          Are you saying that when you sort a folder in finder by date created you don't get the right results?

                           

                          Screen Shot 2012-12-11 at 8.27.40 AM.png

                          • 10. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                            345Alive Community Member

                            Yes that is what I'm saying.

                             

                            Maybe I'm doing it wrong but I was on the phone to Apple for over an hour the other day and even the man on the phone was apologetic and said that no, it doesn't sort accoring to date taken.

                             

                            My screen looks quite different to yours. I choose Finder/Pictures and then select the folders or sort. When I select the date created I get photo all out of order that I know I didn't take on those dates. It also shows me the files horizontally stacked to the right rather than a page view.

                             

                            I've included a screen shot.

                            Under the previous 7 days you will see a shot in black and white

                            You will also see it in colour under previous 30 days yet they were taken on the same day. I only have a few photos in the folders for the purpose of playing around with trying to work this all out but when I had hundreds of photos in there many were out of sync and I couldn't find them.

                             

                            I am used to seeing

                             

                            3/4/2012 (then all those photos)

                            9/10/2012 (photos)

                            4/12/2009 (photos)

                             

                            etc.... all ordered all logical. If this can be done and I'm doing something wrong - I'll be so happy!

                            I really don't like how they all get stacked at one end. If I open a folder then they show me them unstacked which I prefer.

                             

                            Screen Shot 2012-12-12 at 3.58.03 AM.png

                            • 11. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                              Barbara B. ACP/MVPs

                              Well, my first suggestion would be to get out of icon view. Click the list or column button at the top of the screen and see if things are more what you want. Also, you do know that you can set the view options  to dictate the default criteria for viewing and sorting?

                               

                              Screen Shot 2012-12-11 at 8.29.54 AM.png

                               

                              When I add Date Created and click the button to sort that way, my files are in the correct order:

                               

                              Screen Shot 2012-12-11 at 10.20.33 AM.png

                              • 12. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                                345Alive Community Member

                                Thanks Barbara. Yes I know how to do all that. Date Created is NOT the same as the date the photo was taken. Apple have said so themselves, I've seen many people perplexed over the same issue on other boards as well.

                                 

                                iphoto/elements can order to the Date the photo was taken but that's it. I think it's important that I can also make the base directory (or what-ever you call - sorry I don't know) logical and sequential too.

                                • 13. Re: What is the best Photo editing software with good organiser for a mac?
                                  345Alive Community Member

                                  I did find this however so will have a closer look and let you know if it works.

                                   

                                   

                                  http://www.publicspace.net/ABetterFinderAttributes/