12 Replies Latest reply on Jan 4, 2016 2:26 PM by GeMir

    How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?

    Saki H Level 1

      I am creating a table with a significant amount of data that I want to separate by leader dots. I know I could do this with tabs, but is there an easier way to do this in a table?

       

      Thanks.

        • 1. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
          [Jongware] Most Valuable Participant

          Sure there is!

           

          Add a Rule Above to the paragraph style of your table text, set its style to "Dotted" and its weight to something you like. Then add a Rule Below, and make it a bit thicker than the dotted rule. Set its color to "Red" or something so you can see what you do next: vertically manouver the Offset so the "Below" rule covers the "Above" rule. When positioned Jus' Right, set its color to [Paper].

           

          The only danger is that you might get the first dot after your text clipped off. In that case all you can do is .. add a Tab! (If you try to use any of the fixed spaces, you're in for a not so pleasant surprise: apparently the Rule Below ignores them! But you may consider this the price of doing it the easy way.)

          • 2. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
            [Jongware] Most Valuable Participant

            [Jongware] wrote:

             

            The only danger is that you might get the first dot after your text clipped off. In that case all you can do is .. add a Tab! (If you try to use any of the fixed spaces, you're in for a not so pleasant surprise: apparently the Rule Below ignores them! But you may consider this the price of doing it the easy way.)

             

            Oh wait, it springs to life if you add a small fixed space and then add manual kerning between this and the last text character.

            • 3. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
              Eugene Tyson Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              I think I know your aversion to adding tabs in a table - you have to manually keep going to Type>Insert Character> Tab etc.

               

              But did you know that if you go to Edit>Keyboard Shortcuts and go to the Type Menu and navigate to the "Insert Special Character: Other: Tab

               

              You then set your Tab key to work in Tables by  changing the "Context" area from default to "Tables"

               

               

              Now your Tab key will work inside tables - but it takes away the function of using Tab to go from Cell to Cell.

               

              You can also do this for the Right Indent Tab so that too works inside a table.

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              • 4. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
                [Jongware] Most Valuable Participant

                Default shortcut for a tab in a table is Opt+Tab on the Mac.

                 

                .. The Windows pendant ought to be Alt+Tab, but I get an entirely different program when I use that -- the default set only shows "Tab --- [none defined]".

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                • 5. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
                  Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

                  Seems to me I set up Ctrl + Alt + Tab to do tabs in tables a few versions ago, but I so seldom use tables these days that I don't know if I preserved that shortcut set.

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                  • 6. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
                    Saki H Level 1

                    Thanks for the help! I tried this, but I couldnt get it to work. Below are images of what I did.

                     

                    Step 1: Create Rule Above:

                    Screen Shot 2012-12-10 at 11.31.12 AM.png

                    Step 2: Create Rule Below:

                    Screen Shot 2012-12-10 at 11.32.19 AM.png

                    Step 3: Change Rule Below color to Paper:

                    Screen Shot 2012-12-10 at 11.32.30 AM.png

                    Now that the Paper-colored Rule Below is hiding the Rule Above, it appears as if there are no Rules or Leader Dots at all. I am sure I did something wrong, but I am just not sure what...

                     

                    Thanks.

                    • 7. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
                      Saki H Level 1

                      Speaking of keyboard shortcuts, is it possible to create a shortcut to get you out of a table. In other words, if I have the Insert Text cursor in a text box, I can press ESC to get out of the text box. But when I put the cursor in a table cell, pressing ESC just highlights the entire cell. If I want to escape the entire table, I need to move my cursor to someplace on the page outside the table with my mouse, then click a mouse button, and then press ESC. It seems unnecessarily frustrating and time-consuming.

                      • 8. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
                        Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

                        I think jongware forget to tell you to set the width of the second rule to "text width" (and you could add a small negative right indent to create space after the text and before the dots).

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                        • 9. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
                          Saki H Level 1

                          That fixed it! Thanks.

                          • 10. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
                            Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                            @Neil – You can "escape" the text selection inside a table cell by:

                             

                            Using the keyboard shortcut for "Deselect All"

                             

                            on  Mac OS: Shift + Cmd + A 
                            on Windows: Shift + Ctrl + A

                             

                            Or, if you want to select the text frame with the cell the text curser is in:

                             

                            1. Press the "cmd" button (on Mac)
                            The object your mouse curser is hovering over is temporarily selected *together* with your text selection.

                             

                            2. then click the left mouse button.
                            The text frame will be selected, your text selection deselected, if your mouse curser is hovering over the text frame with the table.

                             

                             

                            Or use the following script (JavaScript) for "Deselect All" and apply a keyboard shortcut.
                            For "Context" choose "Table":

                             

                            try{app.selection = null}catch(e){};
                            

                             

                             

                            Uwe

                            • 11. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
                              Saki H Level 1

                              These are all great secrets I never knew. I don't understand javascript (although I wish I did!), so I will stick with the other two. Thank you so much!

                              • 12. Re: How to create leader dots in a table (without tabs)?
                                GeMir

                                I'm making my first calendar in InDesign.

                                Is there a way to start the dotted Rule Above directly after the last character?

                                At the moment I use large Left Indent, but it looks not good at all:

                                 

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