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1. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
P Spier Dec 18, 2012 11:27 AM (in response to Ceencha)It's my preferred format.
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2. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
BobLevine Dec 18, 2012 11:29 AM (in response to Ceencha)PNG is RGB only.
TIF files certainly maintain transparency but you must enable that when
you save in Photoshop.
There is nothing wrong with placing PSD files.
Bob
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3. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Ceencha Dec 18, 2012 11:35 AM (in response to BobLevine)WOW ! WOW ! WOW ! WOW !WOW ! WOW !
I never knew one could simply "place" PSD files.
TOTALLY AMAZING !!!!!!!!
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4. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Dov Isaacs Dec 18, 2012 12:09 PM (in response to Ceencha)(1) TIFF files certainly do preserve transparency. Make sure you select that option when saving TIFF.
(2) The lossless compression in .PSD files is much less than that of LZW and especially ZIP-compressed TIFF yielding potentially much larger files.
(3) If your .PSD file is strictly a photographic image, without raster layers that you need to individually access in InDesign (in terms of enabling or disabling), .PSD doesn't really offer you any advantage over TIFF.
(4) On the other hand, if your .PSD contains live text and vector content, the only rational format for placement into InDesign would be PDF since saving to PDF retains both vector objects as vector and text objects as text.
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5. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
P Spier Dec 18, 2012 12:18 PM (in response to Dov Isaacs)The downside, in my opinion, of saving tiff is that if you do need to save transparency and layers, there are many programs that don't support that on import. I guess those same programs probably don't support direct import of .psd, either, so it's no more work to save a new version from a tiff than from a .psd, but I tend to save just the .psd until I find I need something else.
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6. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Dov Isaacs Dec 18, 2012 12:31 PM (in response to P Spier)You don't need to save layers unless you actually have layer usage in the image, only the transparency if you use it.
Of course, you do need to concern yourself with where the image will be imported to and support for either .ZIP compression and/or transparency. All the CS applications have supported TIFF .ZIP compression and transparency from the get-go! All recent versions of Microsoft Office applications likewise support same. As such, unless your world of image usage goes outside Adobe and Microsoft, TIFF is quite safe.
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7. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
John Hawkinson Dec 18, 2012 1:28 PM (in response to Dov Isaacs)Since we're talking about InDesign CS5, there is a wrinkle.
Dov Isaacs wrote:
(1) TIFF files certainly do preserve transparency. Make sure you select that option when saving TIFF.
And unfortunate pragmatic isue is that Photoshop CS6 changed the way it stores transparency in TIFF files, and it stopped saving obsolete legacy data. And InDesign CS5 (but not CS6) depended on that legacy data. So if you're using PS CS6 and ID CS5 (the subject here indicates ID CS5) and you care about transparency, it's not a good idea to use TIFF.
(Personally I would tend to want to use TIFF, if this were not the case.)
I think this "bug" got fixed in ID CS5.5 (#3073238), but I don't think it is fixed in CS6 CS5.
Edit: not fixed in CS5! Not "not fixed in CS6"
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8. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Dov Isaacs Dec 18, 2012 1:24 PM (in response to John Hawkinson)John Hawkinson wrote:
Since we're talking about InDesign CS5, there is a wrinkle.
Dov Isaacs wrote:
(1) TIFF files certainly do preserve transparency. Make sure you select that option when saving TIFF.
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I think this "bug" got fixed in ID CS5.5 (#3073238), but I don't think it is fixed in CS6.
I have experienced absolutely no problems placing TIFF files with transparency from any version of Photoshop into InDesign 8 (CS6).
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9. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
John Hawkinson Dec 18, 2012 1:29 PM (in response to Dov Isaacs)Whoops, I'm very sorry. I intended to write "I don't think it is fixed in CS5," but apparently I typed "CS6" and didn't notice. Sorry about that, and thanks for the clarification. (I edited my post, hopefully in a clear way with strikethrough).
Anyhow, since this thread is about CS5, I think it does matter here.
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10. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
P Spier Dec 18, 2012 2:56 PM (in response to John Hawkinson)In fact, there was a thread about just that yesterday....
Re. layers, I save a lot of adustment layers in unflattened .psd as they are totally non-destructive of the original image data and it allows me to go back and change things at a later time.
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11. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Ceencha Dec 19, 2012 12:36 AM (in response to P Spier)What is the downside with .PSD files?
Because they are so large?
Is that what is bad about .PSD files? Their tremendous size?
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12. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Ceencha Apr 3, 2014 5:25 PM (in response to P Spier)Is there anything wrong with printing the .PSD file to PDF and THEN placing it inside In Design CS 5.5 ??
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13. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Steve Werner Apr 3, 2014 5:28 PM (in response to Ceencha)@Ceencha,
It's totally unnecessary to "print PSD to PDF." You can just choose File > Save As and choose Photoshop PDF. You can only save vectors by doing that.
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14. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Ceencha Apr 3, 2014 5:29 PM (in response to Steve Werner)I open the .PSD file in "Preview" then print to PDF — is that bad?
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15. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Ceencha Apr 3, 2014 5:32 PM (in response to Steve Werner)Perhaps I should clarify:
I've found that "placing" .PSD files or .PNG files or .JPEG files can look not very good inside In Design CS 5.5. (however, when they're exported, they look fine.)
It has annoyed me, so I've been using PREVIEW to print to PDF and then place — usually that helps.
However, sometimes even THAT doesn't help, because In Design will sometimes — of a sudden — make the images look fuzzy, so I have to close In Design (on my Mac OS X Version 10.8.5 ; 2.7 GHz Intel Core i7 ; 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 ; Laptop with «thunderbolt» monitor) and re-open the program.
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16. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
tman69 Apr 3, 2014 8:07 PM (in response to Ceencha)"I've found that "placing" .PSD files or .PNG files or .JPEG files can look not very good inside In Design CS 5.5"
it's because you have your display performance set to 'low quality' ( the default for saving system resources)--to change it-----from the menu bar--choose View > Display Performance > High Quality
your placed images will look better--but--the 'high quality' setting will create more of a load on your system resources and possibly slow down screen redraws and the time it takes for a file to open--but it is a more accurate representation of what your images look like
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17. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
P Spier Apr 4, 2014 3:11 AM (in response to Ceencha)Ceencha wrote:
I open the .PSD file in "Preview" then print to PDF — is that bad?
Preview isn't terribly nuanced. I have no idea what it mangles in .psd, but it's totally incapable of working with complex PDF. If you want PDF from Photoshop, save it direct, and make sure you check the "Preserve Photoshop Editability" box so it acn be reopened with layers, transparency and vector content intact.
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18. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
BobLevine Apr 4, 2014 5:03 AM (in response to P Spier)And change the extension to PDP to make it easier to identify as well as to
use edit original from InDesign.
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19. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Ceencha Apr 4, 2014 9:11 AM (in response to tman69)tman69, no that's not the issue — I always have it set to «high quality» but when I place high quality images in JPEG, PNG, or PSD, they don't look as nice as when I place those same images as PDF.
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20. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Ceencha Apr 4, 2014 9:23 AM (in response to tman69)Look how nice it looks when I place a PDF (viewed inside In Design):
http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/6347_screenshot_PDF.jpg
Look how awful it looks when I place the original PSD (viewed inside In Design):
http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/6346_screenshot_PSD.jpg
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21. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Ceencha Apr 4, 2014 9:28 AM (in response to tman69)HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHAT I MEAN:
Placed as .PDF (displays nicely):
http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/6345_PDF.jpg
Placed as .PSD (horrible):
http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/6344_PSD.jpg
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22. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
P Spier Apr 4, 2014 1:51 PM (in response to Ceencha)If your destination is printed output, the preview quality in InDesign is irrelevant (that's true for screen, too, I suppose). My guess is your images are being downsampled during the print to PDF process.
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23. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
Ceencha Apr 4, 2014 2:12 PM (in response to P Spier)I agree that the "preview quality" inside InDesign is irrelevant. However, it's nice to see good looking images inside InDesign, and if there's nothing wrong with what I'm doing, I prefer to see nice images than non-nice images.
"My guess is your images are being downsampled during the print to PDF process."
That's bad, right? But the size of the file is the same — at least sometimes it is. Other times there's a drastic difference … the PDF is much smaller. But not always.
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24. Re: Is there anything in the world wrong with "placing" a PSD file in CS5?
P Spier Apr 4, 2014 2:22 PM (in response to Ceencha)Your PDFs are all flattened, so no matter what they are going to be smaller than a layered .psd. The only way to I'm aware of to know if they've been downsampled is to run them through preflight in Acrobat.





