2 Replies Latest reply on Dec 20, 2012 2:08 PM by mbrjazz

    buying the right Lenovo w530 for CS5 Master Collection; I should be smarter, but time is an issue!?!

    mbrjazz

      Hi Everyone

      I'm buying a Lenovo w530 for graphic design and video editing on CS5 Master Collection - the whole package!

       

      I have various solutions for HD setup, but no knowledge of hardware or setup in general for a complete machine where the various parts complement each other in a way that there is no obvious bottleneck coming up to fast.


       

      RAID 0 SETUP ON A LAPTOP VERY IMPORTANT???

      I'm following lynda.com for various online lessons as this is not my primary occupation, and one of the instructors stresses the need for a raid 0 setup.

      Having to do this means ordering directly from Lenovo in the US, because they need to install another devise in the machine.

       

      I prefer not to as I live in Denmark. It's so much easier dealing with local suppliers, and the possibilities that’s already in the machine. I realize that in desktop systems you'll prefer larger solutions with more drives and faster connections. In the Lenovo I’m limited by different setups.


       

      HARD DRIVE SETUP - SSD or 7200 for OS and then what for working disc???

      Do I really need raid 0 on a laptop for working files (small web videos) or will SSD Sata III do?

       

      For OS:

      Should I go for a 7200 drive as OS drive and an SSD as secondary drive in the DVD slot via an adapter?

      Or should I go for an SSD drive as OS drive, and also as a secondary drive in the DVD slot. (what sizes should they bee)

       

      CPU

      Intel Core i7-3820QM 2,7GHz Quad Core (3,7Ghz Turbo)

      Ram

      16 or 32 mb

      Harddisk

      500 GB 7200RPM

      2GB NVIDIA Quadro K2000M + Intel HD Graphics 4000 (Optimus auto-switch)

      CD/DVD

      Serial Hard Drive Bay Adapter III with secondary SSD Sata 3 harddisc, could be something from

      120 GB SSD Intel 520 Series

      160 GB SSD Intel 320 Series

      180 GB SSD Intel 520 Series

      240 GB SSD Intel 520 Series

      480 GB SSD Intel 520 Series

      600 GB SSD Intel 320 Series

      or

      CPU

      Intel Core i7-3720QM 2,6GHz

      Ram

      16 or 32 mb

      Harddisk

      240GB SSD(odd size but thats what it says)

      Videocard

      2GB NVIDIA Quadro K2000M + Intel HD Graphics 4000 (Optimus auto-switch)

      CD/DVD

      Serial Hard Drive Bay Adapter III with secondary SSD Sata 3 harddisc, could be something from

      120 GB SSD Intel 520 Series

      160 GB SSD Intel 320 Series

      180 GB SSD Intel 520 Series

      240 GB SSD Intel 520 Series

      480 GB SSD Intel 520 Series

      600 GB SSD Intel 320 Series

       

      Back up is intended from the usb 3 port to some disc - haven't looked at it yet.


       

      FIRST BOTTLENECK?

      I hope my system will recognize the NVIDIA card as a friendly given that’s it’s so much newer than my Master Collection CS5.

       

      I'm curious as to where in this system the first bottleneck will be when I start working.

      Processor, RAM, Graphics card, hard disc setup

       

      Can anyone recognize this straight away?

       

      Does anyone know how the Graphic cards it handles effects in PP?


       

      I'll be glad for all help I can get BEFORE 1 of Jan where part of my funding vanishes...

       

      al best and happy holidays to all

        • 1. Re: buying the right Lenovo w530 for CS5 Master Collection; I should be smarter, but time is an issue!?!
          JEShort01 Level 4

          I do not own and have never used a W530, however having played with various laptop and desktop setups running CS5 I have the following to offer you:

           

          - Suggest the i7-3720QM over the more expensive and ever so slightly faster i7-3820QM CPU

          - Suggest sticking with the K2000M vs. the K1000M with 1/2 the number of cores (you will need to do the ever so common "hack" for Adobe to recognize this GPU; don't worry, this is not a risky step, you simply need to find and delete a text file after installing the software)

          - You can go with either a 7200 rpm boot or SSD choice for the OS / programs; the SSD will perform normal PC chores faster, but the performance level of the boot drive will not impact Premiere Pro as much as the additional drive(s) that you have

          - Suggest you get a third party solution for adding the optical bay 2nd HD (or SSD); I would choose the 750GB Seagate Momentus to insert into it (NewModeUS, eBay sellers, etc.); this will save you a lot of money and will work just fine.

          - In the USA you can request 16GB in 2 sticks so presumably you could expand to 32GB later with minimal cost; do this if you can

          - Suggest start with W530 loaded and configured with Adobe and see if it performs fast enough for you. And, if you want more speed, you could add a USB 3.0 (W530 does not support eSATA like the W520 did) external drive to give you a bit more performance.

          - Of course big, fast, expensive SSDs would be faster (and smaller) for your optical bay and / or USB 3.0 connected drives, but they are very expensive (per GB) compared with 7200 laptop drives and you most likely will be just fine without it.

           

          I found the link about the guy who purchased a W530 for use on a sailboat, but I see you already found it! (you posted to it).

           

          http://forums.adobe.com/message/4909480

           

          Regards,

           

          Jim

          • 2. Re: buying the right Lenovo w530 for CS5 Master Collection; I should be smarter, but time is an issue!?!
            mbrjazz Level 1

            - CPU:

            I agree - the CPU's was following the way the systems was initially put up by the supplier.

             

            - Video Card: I'll stick with K2000M, and try to figure the hack out whan I get to it;-)

             

            - HD discs

            ok so if no real difference I will stick to the 7200 hard disk wich should be cheaper. Do you think I'll get in trouble without Raid 0, og is SSD just as good?

             

            - SEAGATE MOMENTUS. this is 7200 disc right? is this preferable?

            Getting it installed in the optical drive bay and getting the right OS on it, or pitting the SSD in the optical grive bay for working files. Which is best, you think?

             

            - RAM: yes here to, the 530 has 4 slots, but I thought about just filling 32 in it once and for all, since I'm using a lot of programs at the time, that is PS, Illustrator, Indesign, mail, word, browser, PP etc

             

            - Regarding extra drive for more performance on the USB 3. What sort of drive are you thinking about?

            Are USB 3 drives fast enough to use the SSD drives.

             

            - BOTTLE NECK wich part of this machine will be the bottle neck first. My intention is to boy a desktop if this experiment hits of, but I can't afford both and need the mobility.

             

            - BOAT ARTICLE - Yes - I'm trying o learn, but since the optimal hardwaresetting gets technical at times, I would prefer to discuss it with somebody, so thanks a million for your comments!!!

             

            regards

            MBR