7 Replies Latest reply: Jan 1, 2013 8:40 PM by Dov Isaacs RSS

    InDesign won't let my Phaser 6360 manage colors

    The Picture Dude

      In every other software, it will use my printer settings from my Phaser 6360 Printer. But in InDesign, I cannot figure out a way to let my Phaser printer manage my colors. 

       

      Has anyone been succesful at doing that? I can do it in Photoshop and all my other programs, but not InDesign?

       

      My Phaser Printer has the ability to manage each one of my colors, density and contrast, so I can match to my likings...

       

      I've tried every combination and I can't figure out how to let InDesign let the Phaser printer manage my prints?


      Thanks,


      Gary

        • 1. Re: InDesign won't let my Phaser 6360 manage colors
          Peter Spier CommunityMVP

          If you are using the Postscript driver it should be in the Color Managment section of the print dialog.

          • 2. Re: InDesign won't let my Phaser 6360 manage colors
            The Picture Dude Community Member

            Yes, that's what I thought too.  Where is says "Color Handling" and I chose the "Let PS Printer Determine Colors"

             

            Screen shot 2012-12-31 at 3.30.37 PM.png

             

            So I tried that and then went to my "printer settings" when I print and made huge changes and it did not matter what my settings were in the printer. I made sure "apply settings to cmyk" were checked too.

             

            Screen shot 2012-12-31 at 3.34.21 PM.png

             

            So far, I cannot get my printer to make any color or density changes.  But Photoshop does and all my other programs?

            • 3. Re: InDesign won't let my Phaser 6360 manage colors
              Peter Spier CommunityMVP

              I think we need to hear from a user who actually owns this printer.

              • 4. Re: InDesign won't let my Phaser 6360 manage colors
                Peter Spier CommunityMVP

                and double check that color management is actually enabled, both through the driver and on the printer control panel.

                • 5. Re: InDesign won't let my Phaser 6360 manage colors
                  Dov Isaacs Employee Hosts

                  I actually own one of those printers; I have it in my office at Adobe in San Jose!

                   

                  Plain and simple – you cannot reliably print to that printer using the built-in secret sauce color management provided by Xerox. Such color management was great for pre 1998 imaging models of PostScript, but not for modern color-managed workflows that include transparency.

                   

                  Our recommendations for reliable printing from InDesign to the Phaser 6360 or almost any PostScript printer:

                   

                  (1)     Export PDF/X-4 from InDesign.

                   

                  (2)     Print the resultant PDF file from Acrobat Pro X or XI using the default color management setting of Acrobat Color Management (i.e., disable any secret sauce color settings). Of course, you will be printing to a PostScript driver (invoking the printer's Adobe PostScript 3, not the PCL supported by the printer.

                   

                  (3)     The printer itself should have its color correction setting set to none.

                   

                  (4)     Make sure you set Acrobat to print with all spot colors set to print process. Don't let the printer convert spot to process. Things can get very messed up when transparency is involved.

                   

                  Yes, I know this is very contrary to what Xerox may advise you to do.

                   

                  By the way, if you really insist on printing directly to this device from InDesign (which I would not recommend), make sure that you print Composite CMYK, convert all spots to process via the Print Manager (of course in InDesign and Illustrator you should always use Lab alternates instead of CMYK alternates, but that is the subject of a separate lecture!), set the Color Handling to Let InDesign Determine Colors, set the Transparency Flattener to [High Resolution] (instead of the default [Medium Resolution]),  set Image Send Data to All (instead of Optimized Subsampling), and Fonts Download to Complete along with the Download PPD Fonts option checked!

                   

                            - Dov

                  • 6. Re: InDesign won't let my Phaser 6360 manage colors
                    The Picture Dude Community Member

                    Yes, I kind of did that...  Thanks for letting me know this is a problem. I spent hours and hundreds of prints to try to figure out their was no way.  This is the only program that I own, that won't let me manage my own colors.  Thanks for helping...

                    • 7. Re: InDesign won't let my Phaser 6360 manage colors
                      Dov Isaacs Employee Hosts

                      InDesign lets you manage your own colors, albeit through industry standard ICC color management and profiles, but your output to a CMYK PostScript device must really be DeviceCMYK.

                       

                      The real problem is that the solutions offered in PostScript RIPs and printers are well over a decade out-of-date in terms of reliable print publishing workflow color management since PostScript itself doesn't support either ICC color management or live transparency.

                       

                                - Dov