30 Replies Latest reply on Nov 28, 2017 12:55 PM by Nancy OShea

    How to import Muse into Dreamweaver

    FalfyWalfy Level 1

      I am trying to import my muse website into Dreamweaver because i want do design my website in muse and then use PHP and MySQL to make blogs and membership systems etc. When I open dreamweaver and right-click  on the Muse website and press "Open With - Dreamweaver", it starts opening it (it only opens the Muse website and just shows a blank HTML)... then Dreamweaver stops responding and i have to close it. If there is any way of making a membership system and blog in Muse (which only certain people can edit [not using Muse]) then please reply an answer... or if possible can people please respond on how to open a muse website in dreamweaver.

       

      Thanks in Advance

      Richard

       

       

        • 1. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
          Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          MU is a code generator while DW is an HTML editor.

          I don't think you can import MU files directly into DW.  I think the best you can do is open the HTML pages in DW the same way you would with any site.

           

          The first step in DW, is to define your local & remote site folders by going to Site | Manage Sites > New Site...  Tell DW where on your hard drive to find your local site files.

          http://www.adobe.com/devnet/dreamweaver/articles/first_website_pt1.htm

           

           

          Nancy O.

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          • 2. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
            FalfyWalfy Level 1

            thanks for reply

            • 3. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
              FalfyWalfy Level 1

              so theres nothing i can do?... the MU site is already in the folder where i am making my website in DW... and theres no way to make a membership system or blog in MU?

              • 4. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                Look at Business Catalyst for your blog.

                http://www.businesscatalyst.com/features

                 

                I don't use MU and probably never will.  But as I understand it, you can upload your MU site to BC & integrate with its many modules.

                http://tv.adobe.com/watch/introducing-business-catalyst/getting-started-with-business-cata lyst-and-muse-creating-and-publishing-sites/

                 

                 

                Nancy O.

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                • 5. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                  FalfyWalfy Level 1

                  thanks... im not gonna use MU either, im only on the trial and i think its pretty bad, DW is a lot better

                  • 6. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                    Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    MU is really aimed at non-coding designers who want quick & easy web pages.  I'm afraid the trade-off for all that "ease of use" is bloated code & limited support for advanced web features.  

                     

                     

                    Nancy O.

                    • 7. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                      cvcles Level 1

                      If Muse is restricted to Muse- it wil dissapaer soon.

                       

                      It's usless if its generated pages cannot then be used in DW, etc.

                       

                      It's museless™!

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                      • 8. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                        Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                        Nobody said you can't edit MU pages in DW's Code View.  It's just that MU code is awful to work with.

                         

                        Nancy O.

                        • 9. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                          filip.scridon Level 1

                          you can try by exporting to html from MU and then setting up a new site in DW using the folder where you exported the MU project.

                          • 10. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                            david_imanaka Level 1

                            As a non-coding designer, I'd rather design and hand off or collaborate with a Dreamwear person who can do the html coding and maintenance. My interest is in what the viewer sees and how they use it, not necessarily know how to create code. Most of us know how to drive a car, but few know how to build one. Rather than let Muse become a "whipping post" and the bane of all Dreamweaver coders, perhaps Adobe might entertain the idea of making Muse files Dreamweaver friendly. They certainly have accomplished this in other areas ala Creative Suite. Business Catalyst is just their answer solutiion, but for many clients, isn't the way they conduct their business.

                             

                            So  in the meantime, it would great if people who are Dreamweaver evangelists provide some insight about figuring out how best to make things work. I mean it's you folks that are working under the hood. And, I respect that.

                             

                            Thanks,

                            David

                            • 11. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                              Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                              Not meaning to appear disparaging here, but if a client asked me to collaborate with them on a MU site, I would respectfully decline or tell them that the whole thing needed to be rebuilt in DW.  MU code is HORRIBLE.   There aren't enough hours in my day...

                               

                              I doubt Adobe can realistically make MU code any less onerous to work with.  MU is what it is -- a consumer level product aimed at non-coders. 

                               

                               

                              Nancy O.

                              • 12. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                david_imanaka Level 1

                                No matter how onerous or horrible Muse is, my comment was to find a workable path. I mean it's easy enough to find reasons not to. That's the easy part. The hardwork or maybe not, are reasons to make it work.

                                 

                                You have to understand I am not talking about code, you need to take that up with Adobe, not the MU user. I'm just trying to find a workable path to solving a need no matter how distasteful you may find it.

                                 

                                MU is what Adobe is.

                                • 13. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                  filip.scridon Level 1

                                  When you finished designing your site in MU, go to File > Export as HTML > enter a domain name > choose a location on your computer > click OK.

                                   

                                  Then you can give the exported files to your developer, and he can set up a DW site via the site management (assuming that he knows how to do that).

                                   

                                  Have fun designing beautiful sites

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                                  • 14. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                    david_imanaka Level 1

                                    Thanks filip.scridon- I am sure most of you skilled Dreamweaver people are just that, highly skilled. I do have a modicum of expertise at multiple levels in the global process and mating resources. Part of the challenge is to match skill and willingness to slog through the "bloat" to fulfill client expectations. They don't pay for "no" answers. There are several things I've learned, MU is challenging (a pain) even for skilled DW users, MU has low level DW functionality, and that I have to carefully screen DW user skills before hiring them. I really appreciate all of the responses as it has been helpful and insightful.

                                     

                                    So if any Adobe Customer Experience Specialists are monitoring these boards, what say you about this conflict between MU and DW while playing in the same sandbox?

                                    • 15. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                      filip.scridon Level 1

                                      I am no expert, but I think the philosophy behind the MU project is not half bad. I think it is aimed at designers with little coding skills, that need to qickly bring their ideas to life. FW does (in part) the same thing, and IN recently received HTML5 and CSS3 exporting capabilities. Even PS can export CSS3 now (but only for cloud subscribers).

                                       

                                      So I guess Adobe is only trying to cater to the needs of as many people as possible, people that have very different backgrounds and are acustomed to very different ways of working. And it's inevitable that sometimes features overlap, or some may feel neglected, or even over billed.

                                       

                                      Therefore I think you should see MU and DW not competing, but rather complementing eachother. Afterall, design is about communication, and communication is about colaboration.

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                                      • 16. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                        J. Chris Gibson Level 1

                                        So far the only adequate workaround that I have in place is to design Muse pages that link to more complex pages (i.e. forms connected to PHP). When you export to HTML from your Muse project it will build an "assets" folder and populate it with whatever HTML files you have linked to. You have to copy external CSS and other resources (images) associated with your linked HTML file to the asset folder yourself, but that is a minor inconvenience considering the speed that Muse allows in building your 'front end'.

                                        • 17. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                          Dadrocant Level 1

                                          Richard, I have had the same problem since I work with a graphic designer with absolutely no experience in coding, and then I have to take the MU site and do the coding behind in DW. The solution I have found for this is to upload the MU site to a server, and then connect DW to that same server; this is the same as exporting the muse site to HTML and then creating a site in DW on the same folder, but by doing it via the server two people can work on the site on different machines at the same time and when you publish the site to the server, both copies are automatically synced.

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                                          • 18. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                            peterg25115698 Level 1

                                            I have just dipped into MU and I really like it .. sure ,, it needs refining A LOT , but as a tool it turns web development into web DESIGN .. but its true , it needs far more integration with its big sister DW

                                            • 19. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                              takeyourmeds Level 1

                                              Once you've edited your Muse-generated HTML in DW, can you continue using Muse with it? Will it override the changes made with DW?

                                              • 20. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                Once you've edited your Muse-generated HTML in DW, can you continue using Muse with it?

                                                No.  You cannot go back. Either use MU for the entire life of your site or export it to HTML and don't go back to MU.

                                                 

                                                 

                                                Nancy O.

                                                • 21. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                  rjr9 Level 1

                                                  Seems so weird that Adobe didn't realize that both Muse and Dreamweaver might be used collaboratively - by a designer and a programmer on a web development team. Perhaps, Dreamweaver CC 2016 should include an import from MUSE feature?

                                                   

                                                  I am not aMUSEd. Sigh!

                                                  • 22. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                    BenPleysier Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                    Muse can export HTML which in turn can be processed by Dreamweaver. However, HTML cannot be imported into Muse.

                                                    • 23. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                      Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                      The key differences are MU is a code generator and DW is a code editor.

                                                      MU native project files are not .html until you export 'em. 

                                                      • 24. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                        rjr9 Level 1

                                                        Yeah… I work with both designers and programmers but the Adobe CC trends are handicapping our collaboration to a point where we are looking for alternatives to Adobe solutions.

                                                         

                                                        Randy Riesterer

                                                        Cell: 814-321-1497

                                                        randyrie@comcast.net

                                                        • 25. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                          AdrianHdz22 Level 1

                                                          As soon your design is ready save it as HTML, later you can open the index or any of the pages created in muse on dreamweaver and you will see all the code that was use to create that website And edit it as well

                                                          • 26. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                            Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                            But page rendering in MU is not the same in DW's Design View.  It's apt to be all skewed.  Working with MU generated code in any HTML editor is no great shakes to look at either. 

                                                             

                                                            IMO, it's best to take the design comps made in MU or PS as a blueprint for rebuilding the site from scratch in DW. In the end, you're getting a much better product with logical code, good semantic markup and better traction for SEO.

                                                             

                                                             

                                                            Nancy

                                                            • 27. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                              MrJabbee Level 1

                                                              i just designed my small business site, totally in adobe muse, i have just exported to html and opened it up in dreamweaver... oshea was right, totally bloated code... but that's okay, with the advent of faster computers and faster internet, bloated isn't that bad as the sub-5K or dial-up days.

                                                               

                                                              i'm intent on converting my website in a one-off wordpress website. it will be difficult, but that is the price of customer service. it is an experiment.

                                                               

                                                              the thing about adobe muse is the design. as long as the design does not change, the code will not change. as soon as the client wants something changed, the coder will have to know their stuff. if they don't then they are not coders.

                                                               

                                                              the reason why i'm using adobe muse is i was once bleeding edge coder and scripter, writing my own scripts to use the DOM. i stopped in 2005 after creating an awesome changing background, hiding foreground, changing text-size, changing text colours through user-interaction and timed-base. but i've been out of the game since. haven't coded anything or scripted anything since then. i have no idea was sass or json, or whatever. i played with jquery in college for a few hours in 2009, but i found print projects much more my speed.

                                                               

                                                              my apologies, i ran off on a tangent. the point is, any coder should be able to take any design in muse to retrofit for any cms. a script master will be able to organize the adobe muse export and wield its script they way they see fit. if they can't it is about laziness.

                                                              • 28. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                                Kelliecar Level 1

                                                                Thank you very much. Worked great for me!

                                                                • 29. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                                  SwissPL Level 1

                                                                  Anyone know of a service to have a Muse website converted / rebuilt to Dreamweaver?

                                                                   

                                                                  My current Muse site has 240 pages. I would love to transition to Dreamweaver, I just want the look / layout to be exact and then all the content ported over in an optimized way. This would be highly useful.

                                                                   

                                                                  Thanks,

                                                                  Alldaron

                                                                  • 30. Re: How to import Muse into Dreamweaver
                                                                    Nancy OShea Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                                    If you can't work with code, having a "Dreamweaver site" will be no help to you.   The days of 240+ static web page sites are over.  Nobody builds  sites like that anymore because they're a pain in the neck to maintain.

                                                                     

                                                                    You need an experienced developer who can take your Muse concepts and translate them into a new site built dynamically with server-side code & databases PLUS an easy content management system you can use to maintain it.   For example, WordPress is a CMS but it's not the only one.  Business Catalyst also has a CMS module.  

                                                                     

                                                                    What's your budget?

                                                                    What kind of web hosting do you have currently?

                                                                     

                                                                     

                                                                    Nancy