12 Replies Latest reply on Jan 20, 2013 11:32 AM by Funken9

    Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails

    Funken9

      Running the Camera Raw 6.6 update for Premier Elements 10 fails with the message:

      Update Failed

      ! Updates could not be applied

       

      Error log says:

      Elements Camera Raw 6.6 Updates

      Installation failed. Error Code: U44M2P7

       

      Windows 7 64-bit

       

      What gives?  How can I find which version of Camera Raw is installed?

        • 1. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
          whsprague Level 4

          What process are you using.  I don't remember how to tell which it has.

           

          When I did it, I used the "updates" choice under the Help menu in Photoshop Elements 10.  It looked for updates, found ACR 6.7 and installed it in both Premeir Elements 10 and Photoshop Elements 10.

           

          Since then, I upgraded to PrE11 and have done it twice.  ACR is up to 7.3 currently.  PrE10 can't and won't go past 6.7.  If you have a newer camera, you may have to get an upgrade.

           

          Bill

           

          PS:  After I posted this, I tried loading a RAW photo file from a new camera that requires ACR 7.2 into PrE 11.  It works very well!  I had no idea PrE could handle RAW photos!  I thoght I had to convert to .jpg, .dng, .tiff or something.

           

          Edited for with additional information.

          • 2. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
            Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

            And make sure you've manually gone to Windows Update and downloaded all of the non-critical updates (which don't download automatically). They often provide important updates that are necessary for high-end programs to use.

            • 3. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
              Funken9 Level 1

              Thanks for replies.  Windows is on the busy auto-update program.  I have Photoshop elements 8 (upgrade from 4, 5, 6, 7 maybe earlier).  PSE 8 stopped auto updating years ago, but I was able to update to Camera Raw 5.2 manually.  That is, find the subdirectory that contains the plugin and copy the new plugin there.  I had 3 or 4 subdirs with the plugin, it was a process of elimination to identifiy which was the functional plugin.  The old plugin must be removed or PSE8 reads it even if renamed (duplicates show in help, plugins).  Adobe says PSE8 will only update to Camera Raw 5.2.  I have yet to test import of an image from a camera newer than those in the 5.2 update.  I do have a camera that's in the 5.3 list.

               

              Premier Elements is different, no inventory of plugins.  Auto update says it is up to date.  Adobe says PE10 will take the Camera Raw 6.6.  Without an inventory of installed plugins, I downloaded 6.6 zip file, that's what fails upon installation.  I have yet to try searching for the plugin and manually overwriting older versions.  The 6.6 upgrade process produces 50 files so it will be much more difficult if I go that route.  First I'll test import of images from a new camera, then I'll try the manual update process, if all else fails, I'll reluctantly update to PE11.  Adobe help describes use of the DNG function, which provides a work-around to camera raw incompatability.

               

              It seem the updates of Photoshop and Premier have been for new file sharing functions and cloud storage or macros that deploy basic image/video imaging functions.  I have no interest in using social network and cloud storage interface, I just want to edit, so upgrades have not been appealing.  Adobe is out to collect another $100 each year or two with no real increase in editing functionality?  Or is it that the bugs in PE10 are fixed in 11?  The advertising says nothing about bug fixes, must pay another $100 to find out if the bugs are fixed?  I'm old fashioned, pay for new functionality, not features that are already supposed to be there.  Now it costs $100 if I want to update the Camera Raw plugin...

               

              Social networking, storage modes come and go.  I just want the image processing to work well!

              • 4. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
                Funken9 Level 1

                P.S.  I also updated the Adobe updater for no change in results of Camera Raw update.

                • 5. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
                  Funken9 Level 1

                  Reinstalled Premier Elements, used help, check for updates.  Camera Raw 6.7 was installed by the update process.  That's how I found out that I am good. 

                  • 6. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
                    whsprague Level 4

                    Funken9 wrote:

                     

                    It seem the updates of Photoshop and Premier have been for new file sharing functions and cloud storage or macros that deploy basic image/video imaging functions.  I have no interest in using social network and cloud storage interface, I just want to edit, so upgrades have not been appealing. 

                    The capabilities included in PrE11 for AVCHD 2.0, as well as the smoother process of setting the project preset were appealing to me.  But, if you do not have a camcorder capabile of 1080p, you might not find the appeal.  With PSE 11, I found the appeal in the support of RAW for a new camera I bought.  If you don't have any new cameras, it may not have appeal either.  Of course, the new and less cluttered inteface might not be applealng to everyone either.  For me, it was a major improvement to put the growing crowd of tiny buttons into organized menu tabs where you can read and see the purpose of the button function.  Oh, and then there is the improved version of slow motion control, but that might not have appeal either.

                    • 7. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
                      Funken9 Level 1

                      That's good information, thanks.   AVCHD 2, I'll have to look into that.  There were some bugs in PE10, I can't think what they are because I have work-arounds (including save/exit and restart).  Have the bugs been fixed?  I can only imagine how tough it is to work all the bugs out of software built of many components by many developers.  Improved slow-motion control sounds good, too. 

                      • 8. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
                        Funken9 Level 1

                        Reading about AVCHD and H.264:

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC_products_and_implementations

                         

                        I not sure what is the value of AVCHD 2.0?  Is it specific to Panasonic and Sony cameras?

                         

                        I understand that H.264 is a motion compensating codec and works well in Youtube presentations.  The codec is found is MP4 and MOV containers.

                         

                        I am enjoying the oportunities presented by continous shutter release and interval images of digital cameras in movies as short and long time-lapse sequences. 

                        • 9. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
                          whsprague Level 4

                          Funken9 wrote:

                           

                           

                          I not sure what is the value of AVCHD 2.0?  Is it specific to Panasonic and Sony cameras?

                           

                           

                          It all relates to the current standard for HD TVs and Blu-Ray players.  The idea is that some think the clearest and sharpest picture you can get on current TVs is 1080x1920 with 60 frames progressive.  Having a TV that can do that I think I agree.  Maybe because AVCHD is a relative of Blu-Ray, not all camcorder makers (like Canon) have signed on.  But, Sony and Panasonic did.  Applr has not been keen on it either. 

                           

                          The 2.0 part is around a year old.  AVCHD at first did not include 1080p60.  On one camera I own it took the press of a separate and independent button to shift into it.  Now the AVCHD 2.0 includes that and the newest camera I own has it built into the menu structure like the rest of the choices. 

                           

                          As far as PrE goes, editing of the AVCHD 2.0 1080p60 video formatr was not officially supported until the latest version.  However, I got it to work pretty well in version 10.

                           

                          Frankly, if it was not the 1080p60 files that come from two of my cameras and one of my wife's, I might have stuck with version 10. 

                           

                          Bill

                          • 10. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
                            Funken9 Level 1

                            Thank you very much for that.  I've shot 60fps with GoPro cams and it's the one and only format of "old" Flip HD cams.  Other than improved slow-mo, the 60 fps is all viewed at 30fps.

                             

                            I still have a raster scanner TV!  As long at it works, it's suitable for 99% of the... stuff that comes on cable.  Not sure I've ever seen real 60fps HD.  I did notice 120 Hz HDTV is a lot nicer than 60 Hz refresh and 1080p is the way to go.

                             

                            They things are going, I think I can make good use of 30 fps, H.264.  Other than a few minor bugs, I'm happy with PrE10 for that.

                             

                            I'm inspired by some video seen on PBS recently  http://video.pbs.org/video/2321564950/

                            I think some sharp people made some great video from a collection of clips from a variety of sources.  Currently I'm busy taking GoPro and all weather cameras places cameras have rarely been before.  Here's one of a cornfield, 80 images taken over 4 months:

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvJv-9MIWDc

                            Made with PrE10.

                            • 11. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
                              whsprague Level 4

                              Funken9 wrote:

                               

                                Other than improved slow-mo, the 60 fps is all viewed at 30fps.

                               

                              I have a WD TV media player that plays 1080p60.  I have a Sony BD Player that plays DVD "data disks" with 1080p60 files or I can plug in most anything to the USB port.  I have a Sony TV that will play 1080p60 through an HDMI hooked to my laptop.  My next BD player will be a Panasonic.  They play SD cards plugged into a slot in front straight from the camera.

                               

                              Last but not least, the cameras themselves plug in via HDMI and play 1080p60.  In the Sony system, the TV recognized the camera instantly and allows use of the TV's remote for control.

                              • 12. Re: Premier Elements 10 Camera Raw 6.6 update fails
                                Funken9 Level 1

                                I saving my HDMI cables, in case I get a device that fits the other end, before cables are passe.  I see the rush to RF bandwidth allocation.

                                 

                                My next time lapse will be better.  I started the cornfield with saran wrap template on the monitor (that was a dumb idea).  Later I figured out that a single image can be used as a template by fading overlay.

                                 

                                Have you tried making 3D movies?  I like cross-eyed 3D, which I've made with GoPro 3D system for syncronization.  Can almost use any pair of cameras, but PrE10 doesn't always allow the last tiny bit of synchronization.  3D is a step in the direction of high resolution as the image is constructed from 2 view points.  When viewed from twice the monitor width, cross-eyed 3D is not worse than reading an old-fashioned book and no color aberration from glasses.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0JgeHgV_ic

                                 

                                Maybe there is a hack to get synchronization in PrE10?  I haven't figured it out yet.