7 Replies Latest reply: Feb 26, 2013 12:34 PM by John Dunning RSS

    How to duplicate a layer including sub layers

    andi.power

      Let's say I have a Layer (1. Product) that contains a subfolder (Infos), which also contains 2 subfolders.

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      If I drag the 1. Product Layer to the "duplicate layer" symbol only one layer (Artikel...) gets duplicated, but not the subfolders!

      How can I duplicate the whole layer structure? It's no problem to do this in photoshop.

      Thank you for your help in advance!

       

      Andi.

        • 1. Re: How to duplicate a layer including sub layers
          groove25 Community Member

          I don't seem to have a problem with this. Are you dragging the layer/folder icon (not the object inside)? Because that would be crucial.

          • 2. Re: How to duplicate a layer including sub layers
            andi.power Community Member

            Yes I drag the whole folder. But the items in that folder are not marked.

            If I want to duplicate everything within the folder, I have to ctrl + click on every item to mark it. This is not a good workflow.

            • 3. Re: How to duplicate a layer including sub layers
              groove25 Community Member

              Fireworks' sublayers are definitely problematic. I avoid them. That said, this is one area where the sublayer system seems to work just fine. When using the Duplicate Layer function, it's OK that the sublayers and their content don't appear to be selected; they're still copied when you drag the containing layer to the Duplicate Layer icon.

               

              At least that's how it works on my system: Fireworks CS6 on Mac OS 10.6.8. (What version of Fireworks are you using and on what operating system?)

               

              If you work with sublayers a lot, you might be interested in developer Aaron Beall's Layers Commands extension, which includes commands like "Select Entire Layer and Sublayers" and "Explode Sublayer".

               

              http://fireworks.abeall.com/extensions/commands/Layer/

              • 4. Re: How to duplicate a layer including sub layers
                andi.power Community Member

                That's strange, It doesn't work here. I have to select every single sub layer/sub folder in order to duplicate them.

                I use Fireworks CS6 on Windows 7 (PC).

                Thanks for the hint to the extension, I'll give it a try.

                • 5. Re: How to duplicate a layer including sub layers
                  groove25 Community Member

                  That's a shame. Maybe selecting the items on the canvas might be easier?

                   

                  This gets to what bugs me most about sublayers: You'd think that selecting a layer would select its contents—all of its contents. You know how layers are independent from one another? Well, sublayers pretty much act just like regular layers in that sense. All I can think is that Adobe must have added the sublayer feature in haste, to help support Photoshop compatibility, and then left it at that.

                   

                  In any case, I'm surprised that the Duplicate Layer function is letting you down here; hopefully, you'll stumble onto what's causing the problem or else find a decent workaround.

                  • 6. Re: How to duplicate a layer including sub layers
                    andi.power Community Member

                    Exactly. How do I move all objects in one layer including sub layers? Do I really have to select all items with ctrl + click? That is such a pain.

                    If I also want to move the invisible objects within that sub layer, I can't even select them on the canvas.

                    Please fireworks development team, just use the layer system that you use for photoshop. The work flow is extremely circumstancial if you work with many layers and sublayers.

                    I think at the moment, it is the best to use sub layers very rarely.

                    • 7. Re: How to duplicate a layer including sub layers
                      John Dunning Community Member

                      I rarely use sublayers, so I didn't notice that selecting a layer doesn't also select all the elements in its sublayers.  That's obviously stupid, but Aaron's command is a workaround that you could assign to a keyboard shortcut to quickly select everything.

                       

                      When I want things to move together, I use groups, and often groups within groups.  You can't see the contents of a group in the Layers panel, sadly, but you can sub-select elements in the group directly on the canvas.  If you do want to see inside a group, Aaron has a panel for that: http://fireworks.abeall.com/extensions/panels/#Object