15 Replies Latest reply: Apr 10, 2013 8:24 PM by Noel Carboni RSS

    Modify choices are grayed out?

    Armadilla

      2/5/2013 Suddenly I can not longer choose expand, contract, smooth or feather under modify, only border.  How can I fix this, and why did it happen?

      Thanks, Pat

        • 1. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
          Curt Y Community Member

          What program, OS, and file type?  Many tools only work in RGB 8 bit.

          • 2. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
            Armadilla Community Member

            OS X 10.6.8 I am working in RGB 8 jpg file.  I am thinking my preferences might be corrupt but do not know how to fix

            • 3. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
              Curt Y Community Member

              On a Mac start PS and immediatley hold down cmd option shift keys.  If fast enough you will get a reset window.

              • 4. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                Armadilla Community Member

                I will try that and see what happens, Thanks Pat

                • 5. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                  Armadilla Community Member

                  OK, tried this 3 times and got a message "do you want to delete startup files" and said yes twice, third time was not fast enought to prompt message.  It still will not correct the gray-out of 'modify' choices.  Any more thoughts on the subject?  Thank you, Pat

                  • 6. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                    Noel Carboni Community Member

                    I hate to ask something very basic, but do you have a selection made first?

                     

                    Please take a screenshot of your entire screen; perhaps something will become obvious if others can look at what you're seeing.

                     

                    -Noel

                    • 7. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                      Armadilla Community Member

                      Yes, I have selected the whole file to put in a border, then I wanted to contract the width of the border as an after thought to make adjustments in levels. That is when I discovered the gray-outs.

                      When I take a screen shot you can not see the "ants" as my Grab program is fore front.

                       

                      Thanks Patsample.jpg

                      • 8. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                        conroy Community Member

                        Armadilla wrote:

                         

                        2/5/2013 Suddenly I can not longer choose expand, contract, smooth or feather under modify, only border.  How can I fix this, and why did it happen?

                        Thanks, Pat

                         

                        That's a normal (weird) limitation of Photoshop when the entire canvas is selected.

                        • 9. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                          Noel Carboni Community Member

                          Now it's clear what you're doing, I can say that it was something that was specifically changed between Photoshop CS3 and CS4 if I remember correctly.  In Photoshop CS3 one used to be able to select all, then contract the selection, and that made perfect sense to me.

                           

                          I even asked Chris Cox about it once here on the forum, and he implied he had fixed it in Photoshop CS3 but the change was reverted on purpose in CS4.

                           

                          Personally I find it to work wrong now, but have learned not to expect it to work.  apparently inertia is more important than sensible operation to Adobe's decision makers.

                           

                          -Noel

                          • 10. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                            Armadilla Community Member

                            I have had this issue of PS CS4 for almost 3 years and have used these modifications constantly. Why would it just now start graying out this now?  Very perplexing!

                            • 11. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                              Noel Carboni Community Member

                              You're saying that with Photoshop CS4 you have been able to Select - All, then the Select - Modify - Contract and the others were available?  I've not seen that.

                               

                              Keep in mind those menu entries ARE available and work if you have anything but the entire image selected.

                               

                              -Noel

                              • 12. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                                Armadilla Community Member

                                It took a while but it has finally dawned on me that before I always had a white border around my photos for the dropshadow to be in. I have stopped using the white border and done away with the dropshadow.  And you are correct if I select the whole image the modify choices are grayed out, except for border. Thank everyone for their input and help, I just had to rethink what I was doing differently to see my error!

                                • 13. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                                  mirlac Community Member

                                  So I'm afraid I still have major confusion. I have the same exact problem that you have, except that I'm not doing anything different this time than I always have.

                                   

                                  10.6.8, CS4, 8-bit RGB

                                   

                                  I'm creating a frame for the underlying image. I create a new layer, Select All, Select -> Modify -> Contract. No different than every other time in the last 30 minutes. I'm creating several sizes of image and want to create identical frames for them.

                                   

                                  Out of the blue the Modify options are all grayed out, except "Border" which isn't what I want, and I don't know what that does anyway.

                                   

                                  Can someone shed light?

                                  • 14. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                                    Armadilla Community Member

                                    If I remember correctly I was selecting the full extent of my frame.  Say I

                                    wanted my finished artwork to be 5" x5", my layout area would have to be bigger

                                    than that to have my modifiers not grayed out.

                                    • 15. Re: Modify choices are grayed out?
                                      Noel Carboni Community Member

                                      It's expected behavior that if the selection goes all the way to all the edges of the visible canvas, fully selecting all pixels, you will not be able to Contract the selection, since it does not contract away from the edge.  If somehow even one pixel of the selection did not go to the very edge, or was not fully selected, then you can Contract the selection.  It's really as simple as that. 

                                       

                                      Not that I agree that this behavior is the most useful possible implementation.  It was right in Photoshop CS3, I believe.

                                       

                                      Mirlac, I'm guessing you had a non-zero Feather option set.  With that setting, selecting around the entire canvas with e.g., the Rectangular Marquee Selection Tool would allow you to Contract, as all pixels are not fully selected all the way to the edges of the document.

                                       

                                      -Noel