7 Replies Latest reply on Feb 21, 2013 9:03 AM by John T Smith

    HDV to DVD

    Ann Bens Mythic

      Although I do not use E11 myself I do teach this stuff. So I did some testing.

      I encoded some hdv footage to a dvd folder.

      And I am not happy with the result.

      The dvd footage jumps up and down in the top of the screen.

      And what I dont like at all is E11 flipping the fields to lower for dvd.

      Look and compare: anti-aliasing is turned of in the vlc player



      hdv original.png

      E11 dvd folder, all looks blurry especially the edges of the b/w chart.

      hdv to dvd E11.png

        • 1. Re: HDV to DVD
          Steve Grisetti Mythic

          What model of camcorder is this video coming from and what format and resoluiton is it?


          When you go to the Edit/Project Settings menu, what project settings does the program show?


          Some noise at the top and bottom of a frame can sometimes happen. It's not a problem with your program or the camcorder -- and it's never visible when you show the DVD on a TV.


          Have you tried playing the video in VLC Media Player, a far better player for interpreting DVD video on a computer?

          • 2. Re: HDV to DVD
            Ann Bens Mythic

            The camera is a canon XH A1 so footage is mpeg2 1440x1080 with matching sequence setting.

            Probably not showing on a TV but it will show on a big screen.

            You are looking at screendumps from the VLC player..

            Also tried Power DVD : same issue.

            Tried other encorders (TMPGenc  and Encore) much better results.

            I blame it on E11 flipping the fields as you know HDV is upper and E11 sets the fields for DVD to lower.

            • 3. Re: HDV to DVD
              Steve Grisetti Mythic

              Well, if you prefer the results you're getting from other encorders, there's certainly no crime in using them. I commonly edit my video in Premiere Elements and then use another program to take the finished files to a DVD. So go where you get the best results.


              Although, depending on what devices you're using to project your video on a big screen, DVD may not be the best solution anyway.


              Since you're shooting in high-def, a high-def format like BluRay will give you much better results.


              And if you're showing your video by connecting a laptop to a projector, you may want to use a computer-based video format, like an H.264/mp4, rather than a television-based format like a DVD or BluRay disc.


              Unfortunately, there is no one-size-fits-all solution -- so you've got to figure out the best workflow for your particular situation.

              • 4. Re: HDV to DVD
                Ann Bens Mythic

                You are missing the point: I do not use E11 I just teach.

                There are many out there who still own a hdv camera and E11.

                The quality of a dvd E11 produces is not as good as I like it to see. And there is this fields issue.

                Or does one have to be content with the results as it is low budget NLE?

                • 5. Re: HDV to DVD
                  Steve Grisetti Mythic

                  As I said, Ann, field issues only appear when you've created a file for one medium (such as a DVD for TV) and you're using another device (such as a computer) to play the file.


                  There is no one-size-fits-all solution. You need to determine where and how you're going to share your movie with your audience before you can know what format to output for the optimal results.

                  • 6. Re: HDV to DVD
                    Ann Bens Mythic

                    Still missing the point.

                    E11 should not flip fields, wether or not the DVD is played on a computer or TV.

                    It is a design flaw.

                    Interlaced hd  (which is always upper field) should stay upper field on a DVD and not turn into lower field.