2 Replies Latest reply on Mar 7, 2013 11:02 PM by ceencha

    INDD CS 5.5 --- add a page and the entire gets wrecked?

    ceencha Level 1

      First of all, I have found these buttons to be VERY helpful regarding what I am about to say:

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/001_Helpful.jpg

       

      Anybody else love those??  OK, here goes:

       

      1.

       

      OK, so I used to make files that look like this:

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/002_Origialna.jpg

       

      . . . and they looked fairly decent:

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/003_looks_nice.jpg

       

      2.

       

      But there was an AWFUL PROBLEM.  Every time I would add a page:

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/004_add_page.jpg

       

      . . . the entire file (ALL the pages coming after the added page) would become totally screwed up, like so:

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/005_Messed_up.jpg

       

      3.

       

      So, now I am trying to do something that looks like this:

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/006_new_attempt.jpg

       

      4.

       

      It seems to be working OK, because when I add a page:

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/007_add_page.jpg

       

      . . . it appears NOT to wreck everything:

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/008_fixed.jpg

       

      OK, SO HERE ARE MY THREE QUESTIONS:

       

      Question A:

       

      Is this the correct way to do it?  Does everybody already know this?  How come it took me almost 5 years to learn this?

       

      Question B:

       

      What is the best way to "line up" the center thing?

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/009_Line_up.jpg

       

      Question C:

       

      I used to have issues where, after adding a page, INDD would totally screw up my file like this:

       

      http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/010_NO_MORE.jpg

       

      But that doesn't happen to me anymore: why?

        • 1. Re: INDD CS 5.5 --- add a page and the entire gets wrecked?
          Willi Adelberger Most Valuable Participant

          OK, SO HERE ARE MY THREE QUESTIONS:

           

          Question A:

           

          Is this the correct way to do it?  Does everybody already know this?  How come it took me almost 5 years to learn this?

           

          Question B:

           

          What is the best way to "line up" the center thing?

           

          http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/009_Line_up.jpg

           

          Question C:

           

          I used to have issues where, after adding a page, INDD would totally screw up my file like this:

           

          http://www.ccwatershed.org/media/photologue/photos/010_NO_MORE.jpg

           

          What I would do is to set the number of the hymn into an anchored frame, so it can be defined exactly in relation to the spine. Also other objects or frames which have a fixed relative position to spine or not to spine.

           

          Question B:

          Why do you use 2 independent frames? Make it into the same frame.

           

          Question C:

          Take care that all objects snap to magic guides. In CS5.5 you have to have layout adjustment active, later in CS6 define the layou rules and dismiss layoutadjustment.

           

          Another method would be to let the songs completely run in a story. It would adjust completely acording the text frame. You would have to work a lot with anchored frames and be carefuly how you would define the leading and the keep options of the paragraph styles which you will use where you put the anchors to. But I think this would be the most promissing way in respect of automatically updating to left and right pages when inserting new hymns.

           

          Question: How did you set the notes? I have often to typeset christian books and there is often a hymnal part in it.

          • 2. Re: INDD CS 5.5 --- add a page and the entire gets wrecked?
            ceencha Level 1

            What I would do is to set the number of the hymn into an anchored frame, so it can be defined exactly in relation to the spine. Also other objects or frames which have a fixed relative position to spine or not to spine.

             

            I am afraid I don't understand what that means.  :-(

             

             

            Why do you use 2 independent frames? Make it into the same frame.

             

            Because the hymn numbers always need to be on the outside of the page.

             

            Another method would be to let the songs completely run in a story.

             

            What is a "story" ?  I would love to know ... sounds very powerful !!!!!

             

            Question: How did you set the notes? I have often to typeset christian books and there is often a hymnal part in it.

             

            I use Sibelius.  I have also used Finale, but I prefer Sibelius.