Welcome to the forums Hans
If someone can translate AppleSpeak to Intel terminology with an Intel model number maybe we could intelligently comment for this gentleman
I checked the list of Intel Ivy Bridge mobile CPUs. It looks like you have a choice between the i7-3720QM and the i7-3820QM. Both are quad-core CPUs with hyperthreading, and between those two IMHO the 3820QM is not worth the extra $295 over the 3720QM in terms of added performance.
Dear Bill Gehrke and RjL190365,
Thank you so much for your brilliant help and for answering my question so very quickly and intelligently.
With a bow and a smile
Now that we have a translation I will completely agree with Randall.. If you want the see some results from PC Laptops with those two processors take a look at our Premiere Pro BenchMark (PPBM5). When you get there select "Computer Type" and then check the "Laptop" radio button.
Many thanks for the link! I am checking this clever tool.
When I read that 1GB vRAM is required by After Effects CS6 for the ray-trace render engine, I thought - being a newbie - hmm could After Effects (and Premiere Pro) possibly require a certain amount of l3 cache (now or perhaps in the near future)? Maybe I am way off track, because I guess l3 cache has to do with CPU and vRam has to do with GPU?
By the way, forgive me if I shouldn't involve After Effects this way in the Premiere Pro forum.
Again: thanks a lot!!!
>I guess l3 cache has to do with CPU and vRam has to do with GPU
That is correct... with 1Gig of vram, the nVidia card will work for hardware MPE for SOME work... below
Also, to help learn PPro... A tutorial list in message #3 http://forums.adobe.com/message/2276578
Many thanks John T Smith for your help and for great links!
I have now read the blog post and I like the solution with coloured render bars.
1) Does "SOME work" (see above) mean that with nVidia card and 1Gig of vram, all the effects and tools in the software will function - the final output will play correctly, but I may get (a delayed playback according to) red render bars that I would not get with other cards?
2) Regarding the processor (3720QM), is it similar: all the effects and tools in the software will function - the final output will play correctly, but I may get (a delayed playback according to) coloured render bars that I would not get with other processors?
3) Choosing l3 cache when buying a computer: is a specific amount of l3 cache recommended/required now or very likely in the near future? Or is it more about how powerful the processor is overall?
Of course I maybe got it all wrong :-)
Many thanks in advance
1 - The blog link explains what hardware MPE does, and does not do... much better than I can explain
2&3 - I build my own Windows computers, so have no idea about mobile processors
Hans, you can't 'choose' L3 cache. It is an inherent part of the CPU.
L3 cache is especially beneficial for CPU intensive tasks like encoding/decoding AVCHD material. As an example, an i7-3930K and an i7-3960X, both hexa cores, but the first one with 12 MB L3 cache and the latter with 15 MB L3 cache will give the 3960X an advantage with heavy CPU loads, even when they run at the same clock speeds.
In addition to Bill's link, I recommend http://ppbm7.com for some further background information.
John T Smith
I read the blog post again and learned new things. Many thanks for your reply.
Thanks a lot for participating in this discussion, and for your help and URL.
Bill Gehrke and Randall
I know assuring recommendations are impossible, especially beforehand to someone who is this new to the software and who have not discovered his needs by practice yet, but I am hopelessly curious: when you gave your spontaneous recommendation (the more expensive CPU not being worth the extra money) - did you also consider the difference in l3 cache? I liked your spontaneous recommendations a lot.
"L3 cache is especially beneficial for CPU intensive tasks like encoding/decoding AVCHD material"
- Thanks Harm. This was great to know. I am new to PP and Hardware.
Hmmm, think I read somewhere that if I instead use a fast ssd, 2Bb extra l3 cache wont make any difference...
Harm, Bill, Randall, John, and anyone :-)
Finally considering a conclusion, I wonder:
- Considering also the extra 2 Mb of L3 cache, do you spontaneously think the 2,7 GHz processor (i7-3820QM) is worth the extra money (295 USD) over the 2,6 GHz (i7-3720QM)?
(I'm interested in trying creative expressions using PP, AE among other non-video mediums).
Many thanks in advance and for all help