24 Replies Latest reply: Mar 18, 2013 2:07 PM by PetraHg RSS

    Bouncing text

    PetraHg

      I have the problem in Adobe Premiere elements 11 with bouncing text (efects "focus" and "blur"). You can see it on video:

       

       

      And if I used these effects, the program is unstable and falling (in editing the effects or in rendering process).

       

      Is it problem only on my PC or is this the error of Adobe Premiere elements 11?

        • 1. Re: Bouncing text
          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

          What I observed appears to be multiple, Linear Keyframes, that are not providing smooth Zooming.

           

          Can you post a screen-cap of the Keyframes used to apply the Motion>Scale Effect on the Title?

           

          There are several little tips to getting smooth Zooms, but without seeing those Keyframes, it would be guessing, and likely to confuse the issue. With those Keyframes visible, we can probably nail down the issue, and help with a slight modification.

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: Bouncing text
            PetraHg Community Member

            Do you think this screenshot?

            1.jpg

             

            If yes, I tried to use anti-flicker filter, but the result is the same - picture bellow

            2.jpg

            • 3. Re: Bouncing text
              the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

              Can you show us the actual Keyframes? With the Animation toggled ON (Stopwatch), and the >> at the top of the Applied Effects Panel hit, you should see a mini-Timeline, with the Keyframes displayed, per this image:

              PrE11_Keyframes_01.png

              In that image, you can see two types of Keyframes: the "diamond" indicates a Linear Keyframe, while the "hourglass" indicates a Bezier Keyframe (Ease In in this case). Both have been applied to Motion>Scale. If I had also done Motion>Position, there would be Keyframes for that Effect too.

               

              Good luck,

               

              Hunt

              • 4. Re: Bouncing text
                PetraHg Community Member

                actual Keyframes: there is no "diamond" or "hourglass"

                aa.JPG

                 

                If I tried to add key frames, I can add only "diamond". I don't know, how to add "hourglass". When adding these keyframes program was unstable and crashed. But with these keyframes, the result is the same.

                bb.JPG

                • 5. Re: Bouncing text
                  the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                  In that first screen-cap, if your animated Clip has been Selected, then you have not added any animation, hence no Keyframes. Exactly how did you animate that Clip?

                   

                  The Keyframes that are added, WILL be Linear Keyframes, displayed as the "diamond." However, once they have been added, you can Rt-click on the diamonds and choose a non-Linear Interpolation, such as Bezier, or one of the Bezier Presets, Ease-Out, or Ease-In. That change will "smooth out" the animation.

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: Bouncing text
                    PetraHg Community Member

                    My steps:

                    1) click on "Title & Text", select "Default Text", drag to timeline

                    1.JPG

                    2) 2x click to text in timeline, select "Animation", select "Focus", click on "Use"

                    3.JPG

                    Now, the text is animated, but with no keyframes

                    4.JPG

                     

                    Then I tried to create keyframes and apply Bezier Presests, but the text still pullsing. And I cannot work with Adobe, because, when I apply these effects, Adobe becomes unstable and falls :-(

                     

                    So is this the correct procedure?

                    • 7. Re: Bouncing text
                      the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                      OK, you are using the Animation Presets.

                       

                      After you applied the Animation Preset, did you Render (hit Enter/Return) the Timeline? Since PrE is creating "synthetic video" with the Title, and then you are applying an Animation Preset, there should be a red line above that Title, in Expert Mode (do not think that one would get the red line above the Title in Quick Mode).

                       

                      Good luck,

                       

                      Hunt

                      • 8. Re: Bouncing text
                        PetraHg Community Member

                        After you applied the Animation Preset, did you Render (hit Enter/Return) the Timeline? YES

                        Since PrE is creating "synthetic video" with the Title, and then you are applying an Animation Preset, there should be a red line above that Title, in Expert Mode - YES, THERE IS RED LINE, AFTER RENDERING THE TIMELINE IS GREEN LINE


                        • 9. Re: Bouncing text
                          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                          Did Rendering help with the problem?

                           

                          Good luck,

                           

                          Hunt

                          • 10. Re: Bouncing text
                            PetraHg Community Member

                            No, it's the same.

                            • 11. Re: Bouncing text
                              Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

                              What model of camcorder is your original video coming from and what format and resolution is it?

                               

                              What are your project settings (listed under the Edit menu)?

                               

                              Which Publish & Share settings did you use to output your video?

                              • 12. Re: Bouncing text
                                PetraHg Community Member

                                Camcoder: Panasonic HC-V700

                                video format: AVHCD 1920x1080/50p

                                project settings: 1920x1080/25i, pictures below

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                                Publish & Share settings: MPEG2 1920x1080/25i, details in picture below

                                4.JPG

                                 

                                But in this project I don't work with video from camocoder, I only work with text and animations!

                                • 13. Re: Bouncing text
                                  Ann Bens CommunityMVP

                                  Try mp4 for export instead for playing on a pc or vimeo, see how that works.

                                  You will find that under avchd.

                                  • 14. Re: Bouncing text
                                    PetraHg Community Member

                                    when I use mpeg2 1920x1080/25i, the pc is working on his limits (almost 8 Gb RAM, processor at 100%) and Adobe cannot render it - the rendering is stoped at 99% and Adobe stop working, you can see picture below. IS IT NORMAL, IF I RENDERING THE 30 SEC CLIP WITH TEXT ANIMATION ONLY?:

                                    1.JPG

                                     

                                    MP4 1920x1080/25p is better for rendering:

                                    2.JPG

                                     

                                    If I render to mpeg2 the text is jumping a lot. If I render to mp4 the text is jumping considerably less, but still jumping :-(

                                    I will upload mpeg2 and mp4 videos in few minutes.

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                    And I can see this error measage:

                                    3.JPG

                                     

                                    Is it possible that incorrect run of adobe causing czech windows?

                                    • 15. Re: Bouncing text
                                      PetraHg Community Member

                                      MP4 video:

                                       

                                      MPEG2 video:

                                      • 16. Re: Bouncing text
                                        whsprague Community Member

                                        I have no idea if this will help, but you are editing in 50i and your footage is 50p.  Several weeks back, an Adobe employee posted here that some non USA versions were missing some presets, including 50p.  He wrote a tech letter describing a download and install proceedure.

                                         

                                        I'll search for it tomorrow if nobody else remember where the tech letter is posted.

                                         

                                        Maybe this will help.

                                         

                                        Bill S

                                        • 17. Re: Bouncing text
                                          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                          I just did some NTSC Title tests, with several forms of "animation," such as Position, Opacity, Blur and Color Correction with Hue. I will post the Vimeo links, when those tests are uploaded.

                                           

                                          In my case, I Exported/Shared/Published to both 30i and 30p. On my computer display, there were tiny bits of "roughness" in the 30i, but the 30p was 100% smooth. We will see how they appear in Vimeo.

                                           

                                          I got nothing like what you show - that is horrible.

                                           

                                          Hunt

                                          • 18. Re: Bouncing text
                                            the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                            Here is 30p: https://vimeo.com/user17132571/review/62037350/86409aa327

                                             

                                            Here is 30i: https://vimeo.com/user17132571/review/62037351/390d634f97

                                             

                                            Everything was done with Keyframes on the various Effects, both Added and Fixed. No Presets were used.

                                             

                                            Hunt

                                            • 19. Re: Bouncing text
                                              PetraHg Community Member

                                              To whsprague: it will be great, if you find the letter, how to download and install patch for 50p. I asked on chat with technicall support of Adobe and they said, that Adobe Premeire Ellements 11 does not contatin 50p. so I was sad.

                                               

                                              To Bill Hunt: thanks for your video. I will try to create new text and animations without Presets.

                                              • 20. Re: Bouncing text
                                                Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

                                                You also should not be Publishing & Sharing a video you're going to upload to Vimeo as an MPEG.

                                                 

                                                You should be using Publish & Share/Computer/AVCHD with the Vimeo preset.

                                                • 21. Re: Bouncing text
                                                  PetraHg Community Member

                                                  Yes I could do it - render it directly for Vimeo. But this not solve my problem.

                                                  May be, I read in another topic, that there can be problems with compatibility Win 8 APE 11.

                                                  • 22. Re: Bouncing text
                                                    whsprague Community Member

                                                    PetraHg wrote:

                                                     

                                                    To whsprague: it will be great, if you find the letter, how to download and install patch for 50p. I asked on chat with technicall support of Adobe and they said, that Adobe Premeire Ellements 11 does not contatin 50p. so I was sad.

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    The missing 50p preset was discussed in this thread/topic:

                                                    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1100554?start=0&tstart=0

                                                     

                                                    The answer and instructions to download presets that was provided by "Pre_Help, staff" is here:

                                                    http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-elements/kb/missing-presets-pre-11.html

                                                     

                                                    Bill S

                                                    • 23. Re: Bouncing text
                                                      whsprague Community Member

                                                      PetraHg wrote:

                                                       

                                                      May be, I read in another topic, that there can be problems with compatibility Win 8 APE 11.

                                                      Adobe has "certified" compliance with Win 8.  In the only topic I followed about Win 8, the issue was that portions of the screen were missing.  The poster had a Win 8 computer with AMD processor and graphics.  One theory was that Intel works better, but that was not well established at all.

                                                       

                                                      The thread starter, with considerable excitement, found that his PrE11 and AMD computer would work by using the "Windows 7 Compatability Box".  In Win 7, you right click on the program tab, icon or whatever it is called and select "Properties".   Then look for the "Compatibility" tab.  The thread starter found the equivalent in Win 8.  I don't have any idea how this works as I don't have Win 8, have taken steps to avoid it and never had the problem.

                                                       

                                                      Hope this helps.

                                                      • 24. Re: Bouncing text
                                                        PetraHg Community Member

                                                        thanks to whsprague for 50p presets. Now I can create projects with 50p, but  I cannot render the project in 1920x1080/50p. Is it normal?

                                                         

                                                        Back to bouncing text: I tried to creat own text without presets - animation is ok, then I tried to create animation with presets and animation is quite ok too. I don't know, what was happend. I only download and insert 50p  presets into the folder - as whsprague wrote.

                                                         

                                                        New video is here: