Oh, one more note. I am editing native.
I would like to add some things. I have been struggling with this all day...and am noticing a coorilation between using plugins that are creating this effect. One is WARP STABILIZIER, and the other is TWIXTOR. In both situations...you can see that this banding is being created when enabling them. Here are examples. Look at the gradient in the sky.
This is Warp Stabilizer Off -
This is Warp Stabilizer On -
This is Twixtor Off -
This is Twixtor On -
Note the banding going on in the sky. There are no other effects applied to the clip at this time. Just so you can compare side by side...here is a picture with twixtor on with the source footage beside it -
I could REALLY use some help here. I have 5 projects I gotta get done, and I am totally stuck here. I have tried everything! Thanks!
Have you tried applying your Warp Stabilizer & Twixtor effects to the
clips in After Effects via Dynamic Link instead of in your Premiere timeline?
If so, do you see the same 'banding'?
If not, it might be worth a try?
I just tried this and it is definetely minimalized. But this is a terrible workflow for what I am doing right now. What were your thoughts around this? Why would After Effects handle it better than premiere?
The more I look, it is still totally there...not AS bad...but still there.
My best guess is that there are inherent compromises
when using these two image distorting plugins...
(possibly especially when used together).
You might try reversing your stacking order,
deleting one or the other, or pre-processing one...
either via a DI file or pre-composing in Ae.
Here is a shot within After Effects - You can still notice the banding...which definetely gets worse once doing even minor color corrections in saturation.
Here is a shot once it has been brought back into Premiere via Dynamic Link -
While is a noticable difference...it is still there. This is how you can notice it after some small color corrections. It is still really bad -
Have totally tried the stacking order...was one of the first things I tried. Still had the issues, however better if stabilizion is AFTER doing color (bad order, but did look a bit better). The other thing I tried was NOT using Looks for color and just using the 3 way color tool, but still had the same problems. There has got to be a less destructive way to do this. I have never had these problems before...but then again, I dont usually have this amazing blue sky like I have in these particular shots with such a great gradient. Anyone with any thoughts...its greatly appreciated.
It's not just twixtor either...its with warp stabilizer...so I can't just pin it on the plugin, it has these problems with one of adobes built in tools.
For starters, make sure maximum bit depth is turned on in the sequence settings. This will allow 32 bit effects to work best.
Next, only use 32 bit effects, marked as such in the folders.
Also, make sure your AE comp is a 32 bit comp. (The default is 8 bit.)
All of that has been done (as mentioned in my first post)
But, I think I found the quick and dirty way which is going to work best for my workflow (based on getting projects done rather quickly for web only). I added a noise effect and set it between 2-3% at the beginning of the chain. Cleaned up it like a charm!
It looks like I'm running into the same sort of issue: there's heavy banding in Premiere, but not After Effects. Even when I use a Linked Comp (meaning it's in After Effects, but viewed in the timeline in Premiere) I don't see the banding, but I can use the same clip in the same Premiere timeline and then I see banding. So here's the weird part:
My coworker isn't having this problem, even with the same clips and settings. So what's the difference?
I saw your tweet, as well. I would say that if you are using the exact same settings, you may have corrupted your preferences file. See this link: http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/preferences.html#change_preferences to create a new preferences file.
You can also clean your Media Cache Database in Media Preferences.
If that doesn't help, you might try creating a new sequence and then copy and pasting the clips from your original sequence into the new one.
Let us know what happens.
Thanks for the quick response, Kevin!
I reset my preferences (if that's not what you meant for me to do by "create a new preferences file", please let me know).
I cleaned out the Media Cache Database (something I frequently do anyway).
I created a new sequence and copied and pasted the clips causing the banding into it.
Here are images of the issue: Same graphic packages, same footage clip, two computers. It's as if it's on a different mode. Am I missing a setting?
These flares are going cray-yay. Your help is appreciated greatly!
Can you check all the things Jim mentioned in post #9?
Also, see if you have Mercury Playback Engine Hardware Acceleration on or off while comparing the two. And if you are using hardware acceleration for the Mercury Playback Engine, are you using Open CL or CUDA? Do you both have similar GPUs?