14 Replies Latest reply: Mar 23, 2013 10:12 PM by the_old_guy RSS

    Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?

    the_old_guy

      Can't find any tutorial for InDesign cs6 to create the exact size and width of my book including bleed so I can put in PDF form to upload to CreateSpace publishing.

        • 1. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
          Vikrant Rai Employee Hosts

          To get you started, you could look at this recent tutorial on TutsPlus.

          http://vector.tutsplus.com/tutorials/designing/how-to-create-a-book-cover-and-mock-up-in-a dobe-indesign-part-1/

          I hope that this includes what you're looking for.

           

          There are several places where you can look for information, about Using InDesign.

          Adobe TV(http://tv.adobe.com/product/indesign/) and Online Help(http://helpx.adobe.com/indesign/topics.html) provide enough information to get you started.

           

          And there are some superb tutorials out there created by passionate users. http://indesignsecrets.com/ is an excellent resource to follow, to learn, discover, and interact with experts.

          • 4. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
            Eugene Tyson CommunityMVP

            File>New Document

             

            No. of Pages 3

            Facing pages = No

            Set document page size to that of the finished size (i.e. the same size as your text pages)

            Include a Bleed of at least 5mm

            Set Margins to suit - where margins indicate the "safe area"

             

            Window>Pages and using the sub menu (top right corner) select "Allow Document Pages to Shuffle.

             

            Use the Pages Panel (Window>Pages) to move the 2nd and 3rd page beside the 1st page (the icon should change to indicate it's attaching)

             

            Next use the "Page Tool" in the tool bar to select Page 2

             

            From here use the Control Bar (top of screen) to change the Width of the page to the desired Spine Width - you'll need to find out what the spine width will be - this is based on Page Count + the thickness of the paper, including any glue and/or threading). Consult your printers.

             

            If you don't need a spine, i.e., it's under 60 pages - then simply remove page 2 and leave the two larger pages. If it's over 60 pages you'll need a spine.

             

             

            You can now design the cover of the book.

             

            Left page - back cover

            Center page - spine

            Right page - front cover

             

            Make sure any elements (like coloured frames) that are at the page edge extend into the bleed area.

             

            Make sure any elements that don't need to bleed are within the "safe area" (your margins)

             

            Text on the spine generally reads from top to bottom (so when laid flat the front cover is facing up, the text is legible) - but text orientation can vary from country to country. Take a look at a similar book to see how the text runs on the spine.

            • 5. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
              Eugene Tyson CommunityMVP

              When you expor the PDF use the settings the printer provides - if you don't have them ask them to supply them.

               

              Make sure you have "Spreads" selected so that all 3 pages are joined together when the PDF is made.

              • 6. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
                amygfx Community Member

                I have done dozens of covers for CreateSpace. Mike Wenzloff gave the right answer. It is important to use CreateSpace's recommended settings. It's all explained in the link Mike posted. You can do the calculation yourself with the parameters they give you on the page or you can download the cover template (I recommend this)--they give you both a png and pdf, either of which you can bring in to InDesign on a layer that can be hidden before you output. Then use guides to mark the trim lines, spine folds, and safe areas. Then create another layer or more to place your front, spine and back artwork and to position your barcode. Or you can have createspace put the barcode on for you. Just leave an empty spot for it (background only).

                 

                Use the PDF/X-1a:2001 PDF output preset. This will flatten any transparancies and make it compatible with CreateSpace's printing press.

                 

                You can have it all be on one big page. I think it's simpler than having a separate page for back, spine and front (Eugene's instructions). But that is up to you. One thing I do is make the page the actual finished trim size but give it a .125" bleed (in Document Setup -- be sure and show "More Options"). Then my trim guides are made for me. Just remember if you do that to change the PDF output to include the bleed area. You can save a new preset based on PDF/X-1a with this and any other changes.

                 

                Make sure each raster image on the page is at least 300 dpi.

                 

                Incidentally, your bleed must be exactly .125" -- no more, no less. With regular printing presses, you can make the bleeds bigger if you like and indicate where to crop with trim marks, but with CreateSpace, you can't use trim marks and you must make your finished document the trim size plus exactly .125" for bleeds. The margins are also .125". The safe area falls within that. Except on the spine. The margin is .0625" All of this will be clear when you configure and download a cover template on the CreateSpace site. The link to do that is on the page Mike Wenzloff linked to. It says "Download Cover Templates".

                • 7. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
                  Eugene Tyson CommunityMVP
                  You can have it all be on one big page. I think it's simpler than having a separate page for back, spine and front (Eugene's instructions).

                   

                  Most definitely you can do it on all one page. That was the way I used to do it.

                   

                  I find the 3 page method simpler. Plus it allows individual export of page 3 (the front cover) to it's own file which is simpler later on than having to Crop the original PDF to show only the front cover.

                   

                  If it's all 1 page, later on when you need just a jpeg or png or a single page PDF of the front or back cover, it can be a pain when it's all one page.

                   

                   

                  Also - the 3 page setup (back cover, spine, front cover) will automatically place fold marks where the spine is, when you select include Crop Marks in the PDF options.

                  • 8. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
                    amygfx Community Member

                    I should have said--it's a cool tip, Eugene. Thanks. I experimented with it and it works great. I'm going to try it for my next book. My only issue was that it was a bit of a fight to reposition the front cover when my spine width changed. But I figured out that is better done on the page itself with the page tool rather than the icon in the pages panel.

                    Also - the 3 page setup (back cover, spine, front cover) will automatically place fold marks where the spine is, when you select include Crop Marks in the PDF options.

                     

                    That's a great tip for a normal printing press. But CreateSpace is different. You don't use crop marks. Your cover should be exactly the dimensions of the trimmed cover plus a bleed area of exactly .125 inches. A pdf with crop marks will be printed incorrectly.

                    • 9. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
                      Eugene Tyson CommunityMVP

                      Well that's their specs - I specified in my original post to get the PDF settings from whomever is printing it and follow those instructions.


                      The crop mark tip came after the fact

                       

                       

                      Yes - I wish the Page Tool had an option to "lock pages" when you resize them to keep them side by side, but alas, an oversight in the design perhaps?

                       

                      Anywho - both methods are thoroughly acceptable.

                       

                      I thought I'd share my way - and  you shared yours. Now the OP has 2 ways and can choose which one suits.

                      • 10. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
                        Willi Adelberger CommunityMVP

                        No. of Pages 3

                        Facing pages = No

                        Set document page size to that of the finished size (i.e. the same size as your text pages)

                        Include a Bleed of at least 5mm

                         

                        I would recommend to use facing pages. Because this is the only way to be sure that all pages are moving together when the size of the back/spine changes.

                        Text on the spine generally reads from top to bottom (so when laid flat the front cover is facing up, the text is legible) - but text orientation can vary from country to country. Take a look at a similar book to see how the text runs on the spine.

                        Nope. You can't say it generally, it depends on culture and language. In German e.g. it goes alway from down to the top. That is often a problem with books designed or printed outside of Germany or Austria like the Afobe Manuals, they were (in the time they existed in printed form) always designed as US books, wrong way for German readers. Before you say something like this pls inform yourself to the culural background for the targeted region.

                        • 11. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
                          amygfx Community Member
                          I would recommend to use facing pages. Because this is the only way to be sure that all pages are moving together when the size of the back/spine changes.

                           

                          That did it! Now when I change the spine width, the front page stays adjacent. Funny, both Eugene's instructions and Nigel French's instructions (from the Linda.com tutorial linked in this thread) said to turn off facing pages and had you butting up the front page manually after changing the spine width. Maybe this is something that InDesigned changed at some point.

                          • 12. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
                            Ellis home Community Member

                            Willi, this is the first time I hear other countries use down to top spine. This is very interesting. Actually I have a translation done in Spain and it looks that way. Do you know if this is the case for all European countries? What about Asia?

                            • 13. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
                              Willi Adelberger CommunityMVP

                              Hi,

                               

                              Spain us like English, Italian also, German the other way round. Asia I don't know.

                               

                              Willi

                               

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                              Am 23.03.2013 um 17:08 schrieb Ellis home <forums_noreply@adobe.com>:

                               

                               

                              Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?

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                              Willi, this is the first time I hear other countries use down to top spine. This is very interesting. Actually I have a translation done in Spain and it looks that way. Do you know if this is the case for all European countries? What about Asia?

                               

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                              • 14. Re: Where do I find a tutorial for InDesign cs6 on how to set up a book cover for publishing ?
                                the_old_guy Community Member

                                Wow!!! I'm overwhelmed buy so many replies to my question. All of you are absoultely fantastic in your generosity to share and help me. I am truly thankful.

                                 

                                Thank you all ever so much.

                                 

                                The old guy