27 Replies Latest reply on Jul 18, 2006 3:05 PM by Newsgroup_User

    Article Website

    Da_Ones
      I'm gonna be having a LOT ( and I mean like maybe thousands) of articles on my site but my provider/plan unfortunately can only hold about 5 pages. How can I make it so that when a visitor selects an article, the only thing changes is the content on the page and not the navigation bar, menus and page url. I really need to compress....anybody help?
        • 1. Re: Article Website
          Level 7
          You've only got enough web space for about 5 pages? That's hardly
          anything. Are you sure you can't switch providers? There are a lot of
          cheap plans which will still give lots of web space.

          If you're having 1000s of articles, have you considered a dynamic site
          and a database to hold all these articles?

          What you want to do, could be done by using frames or an iframe.
          However I always tell people to avoid frames if possible.

          Da Ones wrote:
          > I'm gonna be having a LOT ( and I mean like maybe thousands) of articles on my
          > site but my provider/plan unfortunately can only hold about 5 pages. How can I
          > make it so that when a visitor selects an article, the only thing changes is
          > the content on the page and not the navigation bar, menus and page url. I
          > really need to compress....anybody help?
          >
          • 2. Re: Article Website
            strober
            Would it be possible to host your articles on a free webhosting provider - most use advertising but you can put their banner in a div tag which can be set as hidden. Although I'm not a fan of frames - one possible solution would be to pur your menus in one frame (i.e. left frame) and your right frame could be used to link to your content elsewhere. However, this would mean you'd be at the mercy of 2 different hosters. If one was down so would your site. Is it not possible to look for another provider or change your plan??
            • 3. Re: Article Website
              Level 7
              You are probably only allowed a certain amount of space on the sever - not
              necessary 5 pages

              What you are trying to do is impossible. If you are going to have that many
              pages, I would certainly look at using a content management system.

              Even Blog software would do the job for you. Does your host give you a free
              blog script... quite a few do? However, if you are only allocated this
              little amount of space, I'd say not..

              Search for: Wordpress, Etomite, Website Baker - the names of some blog
              software that will allow you to write as many articles as you want.... but
              you need a host that supports these type of products, or even offers one for
              free.....

              Proably time to change hosts !

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              "Da Ones" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
              news:e97p3q$2av$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              > I'm gonna be having a LOT ( and I mean like maybe thousands) of articles
              > on my
              > site but my provider/plan unfortunately can only hold about 5 pages. How
              > can I
              > make it so that when a visitor selects an article, the only thing changes
              > is
              > the content on the page and not the navigation bar, menus and page url. I
              > really need to compress....anybody help?
              >


              • 4. Re: Article Website
                Da_Ones Level 1
                Well, my plan is the most basic in the host's plans. It grants me 50 MB (might upgrade to 100). So can any of you guys direct me to a tutorial place in using frames? I just really want to compress. Please, just give me a simple way. I'll try anything...need the money ^_^
                • 5. Re: Article Website
                  Level 7
                  "Da Ones" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
                  news:e981cv$boq$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                  > Well, my plan is the most basic in the host's plans. It grants me 50 MB
                  > (might
                  > upgrade to 100). So can any of you guys direct me to a tutorial place in
                  > using
                  > frames? I just really want to compress. Please, just give me a simple way.
                  > I'll
                  > try anything...need the money ^_^


                  It's not a matter of directing you to a tutorial - we are trying to save you
                  a heap of time and headaches/heartaches.

                  Frames is not a good solution at all. If you expect people to possibly
                  bookmark your articles, this is going to be very difficult for them to do,
                  it will also be a deterrent to search engine rankings.

                  If you are serious up upgrading your service, check with the host whether
                  they offer a free blog - it is going to be much easier for all the articles
                  to be sitting in a database... If they don't offer it, at least ask them
                  what type of blog or CMS they would support... you could then install it.
                  Seriously!!

                  It will also help you complete the site much much faster, so you can start
                  earning that money !


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                  • 6. Re: Article Website
                    Da_Ones Level 1
                    So blog is the way to go? If I use a blog system, people will have no problems with saving to favorites and linking directly right? Ok then, I saw the blog tutorial on here. Do you recommend I use that? Cause I don't think my provider has a blog.

                    P.S. The only reason I'm using the provider is because it's cheap and it's a local provider (within the country).
                    I also decided to switch providers soon...

                    Here's my new plan info (Feedback would be good) :
                    -Mini Hosting Plan- $2.25/month
                    • 75 Mb Storage Space
                    • 3000 Mb Bandwidth
                    • Stores 3,000 Web Pages 2
                    • Stores 1,000 Images/Photos 3
                    • Unlimited Email Accounts 4
                    • Unlimited FTP Accounts
                    • Unlimited Subdomains
                    • Unlimited MySQL Databases
                    • Fantasitico Deluxe
                    • Instant Activation
                    • FREE Softwares
                    • 7. Re: Article Website
                      Level 7


                      > ? Fantasitico Deluxe

                      Go into the hosting's Control Panel or CPanel.

                      click the Fantastico icon.

                      Copy the list of content systems, and of blog scripts that are there.
                      paste into a reply, and people will give their opinions on which one to try.

                      in other words- there are built in CMS and blog scripts in the CPanel that
                      will be working 5 seconds after you click a button....

                      • 8. Re: Article Website
                        Level 7
                        this should be the listing, if the host's license is up to date-

                        http://www.netenberg.com/fantastico_scripts.php

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                        • 9. Re: Article Website
                          Da_Ones Level 1
                          I can't see the CP since I'm changing providers. The provider info I just gave is the one I'm thinking of switching to.
                          I'll give some more info on what I'm trying to aim at:

                          Basically, I'm trying to create an article-based website wherein there will be categories of articles. Then, authors can register and will have their own Author account to have the choice of Creating or Editing their articles. So here are my main problems:
                          -Blogging won't be exactly the best idea for these articles since there will be tons of categories and different authors.
                          -The Author registry system (I don't really know how to go about this)

                          That's about it. The finances are all taken care off...I just need to fix this. By the way, thanks a lot for the time you and the other people, it really means a lot. ^_^
                          • 10. Re: Article Website
                            Level 7
                            On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:50:56 +0000 (UTC), "Da Ones"
                            <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

                            >I can't see the CP since I'm changing providers. The provider info I just gave
                            >is the one I'm thinking of switching to.
                            > I'll give some more info on what I'm trying to aim at:
                            >
                            > Basically, I'm trying to create an article-based website wherein there will be
                            >categories of articles. Then, authors can register and will have their own
                            >Author account to have the choice of Creating or Editing their articles. So
                            >here are my main problems:
                            > -Blogging won't be exactly the best idea for these articles since there will
                            >be tons of categories and different authors.
                            > -The Author registry system (I don't really know how to go about this)
                            >
                            > That's about it. The finances are all taken care off...I just need to fix
                            >this. By the way, thanks a lot for the time you and the other people, it really
                            >means a lot. ^_^

                            How about a forum instead of a blog? If you're on a Windows server,
                            look at http://www.webwizguide.info/web_wiz_forums/forum_download.asp.

                            You can control who posts. Make the author the moderator of their
                            forum, and set it so only they can post in their own forum. Or, if
                            you want comments on the articles, you can allow the author to be the
                            only one who can create an article/thread, but the public, or just
                            members, can post replies.

                            There are free forums available for PHP and CF, too.

                            Win
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                            • 11. Re: Article Website
                              Da_Ones Level 1
                              I don't think forums will be the way to go for me. I'm trying to create a website similar to these successful ones:

                              SiteReference
                              Answer-Site.Com
                              ArticleHut

                              SiteReference is a site I really idolize. The setup of their content is the kind of website I'm after. Can you guys help me?
                              • 12. Re: Article Website
                                Da_Ones Level 1
                                What I'm actually after is to create or find a system that'll let me organize all my articles and links together so it looks like the mentioned sites in my previous post. Any help? Please?
                                • 13. Re: Article Website
                                  Level 7
                                  On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 00:35:27 +0000 (UTC), "Da Ones"
                                  <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

                                  >What I'm actually after is to create or find a system that'll let me organize all my articles and links together so it looks like the mentioned sites in my previous post. Any help? Please?


                                  Back on the WebWizGuide site, there is an ASP app for a News
                                  application here:

                                  http://www.webwizguide.com/asp/sample_scripts/site_news_script.asp

                                  I have it in action here:

                                  http://www.aea.ab.ca/articles/default.asp

                                  However, it's default configuration will not have the multiple
                                  individual permissions you are looking for. The one I've built is
                                  restricted so only the administrator can add, edit, etc. You can set
                                  it so anyone can enter articles.

                                  In order to have multiple member authors able to add articles and edit
                                  their OWN articles, you'd either have to customize something like the
                                  WebWiz version heavily, or more probably have to build one from
                                  scratch. That same site of mine I mentioned above is in the process
                                  of being completely overhauled; the new version will have a
                                  members-only area.

                                  The public can read articles. Members can add articles, and then edit
                                  or delete their own articles. Administrators can add, edit, and
                                  delete anything.

                                  The revamp is here:

                                  http://www.aea.ab.ca/completeCMS/resources/articles.asp

                                  This entire is a custom built solution, whose server-side stuff is
                                  based on the extensions from InterAKT available here:

                                  http://www.interaktonline.com/

                                  Win
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                                  • 14. Re: Article Website
                                    Da_Ones Level 1
                                    Wow you rock dude! This'll totally help me out. I know I got a long way to go but this is a great starting point. If I have questions I guess I'll just ask some more. Thanks a bunch again dude....this is so helpful.
                                    • 15. Re: Article Website
                                      kaethy Level 1
                                      Spend more on hosting, $2.25 is way too low. Hosting that low is "oversold". I bet you spend more than $2.25 a week on coffee, why try to go so low on such a big project? You get what you pay for.
                                      • 16. Re: Article Website
                                        Level 7
                                        On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 09:27:58 +0000 (UTC), "Da Ones"
                                        <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

                                        >Wow you rock dude! This'll totally help me out. I know I got a long way to go
                                        >but this is a great starting point. If I have questions I guess I'll just ask
                                        >some more. Thanks a bunch again dude....this is so helpful.

                                        You're welcome! (And it's dudette, just so you know!)

                                        Win
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                                        • 17. Re: Article Website
                                          Level 7
                                          > (And it's dudette, just so you know!)

                                          Never understood how the "ette" was supposed to render dude in the feminine
                                          form. Ette is usually a reference to small (diminutive). A dudette would be
                                          a little dude?

                                          "....increasingly, "dude" is being used as a gender-neutral."
                                          -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudette


                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ette




                                          • 18. Re: Article Website
                                            Level 7
                                            On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 12:27:49 -0700, "Alan Smithee Jr." <spam@this.org>
                                            wrote:

                                            >> (And it's dudette, just so you know!)
                                            >
                                            >Never understood how the "ette" was supposed to render dude in the feminine
                                            >form. Ette is usually a reference to small (diminutive). A dudette would be
                                            >a little dude?
                                            >
                                            > "....increasingly, "dude" is being used as a gender-neutral."
                                            > -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudette
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ette
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >


                                            Major, majorette

                                            Usher, usherette

                                            Smurf, Smurfette

                                            And no, I don't find "dude" to be particularly gender neutral.

                                            Win
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                                            • 19. Re: Article Website
                                              Level 7
                                              Just sharing Wikipedia info.


                                              • 20. Re: Article Website
                                                Level 7
                                                One could infer something quite sexist and ill fitting to ascribe the "ette"
                                                in the sense of being diminutive (which is what it means
                                                inguistically) -ie- that females are less than males. To diminutize any of
                                                your examples by adding the "ette" to denote female gender could well be
                                                considered pejorative.


                                                • 21. Re: Article Website
                                                  Da_Ones Level 1
                                                  Nice argument guys....hehe. Anyways, I took the cheap $2 monthly plan cause I'm just 13. I don't even make money.........and I wanna try out the stuff first. In case I don't make any profit, then it'll be easier to cancel it. If I do make money, then I'll probably upgrade to a better host and plan.....^_^.

                                                  One last question again, you guys have been a big help. Win, what particular extensions do I need to use. And maybe a tutorial on how I can build a custom solution on the article site? Or maybe a template or something? I'm just really new to server-side scripting...mainly just HTML. ^_^
                                                  • 22. Re: Article Website
                                                    Level 7
                                                    Alan Smithee Jr. wrote:
                                                    > Just sharing Wikipedia info.
                                                    >
                                                    >
                                                    I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia. It's no better than its most
                                                    ill-informed contributor unless someone who knows better corrects it.
                                                    As an example, it still tells the old Richard III/princes in the tower
                                                    chestnut. :-(

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                                                    • 23. Re: Article Website
                                                      Level 7
                                                      On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:20:09 +0000 (UTC), "Da Ones"
                                                      <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

                                                      >Nice argument guys....hehe. Anyways, I took the cheap $2 monthly plan cause I'm
                                                      >just 13. I don't even make money.........and I wanna try out the stuff first.
                                                      >In case I don't make any profit, then it'll be easier to cancel it. If I do
                                                      >make money, then I'll probably upgrade to a better host and plan.....^_^.
                                                      >
                                                      > One last question again, you guys have been a big help. Win, what particular
                                                      >extensions do I need to use. And maybe a tutorial on how I can build a custom
                                                      >solution on the article site? Or maybe a template or something? I'm just really
                                                      >new to server-side scripting...mainly just HTML. ^_^

                                                      Whooo boy. If you're 13 you are probably not going to want to
                                                      purchase all the InterAKT stuff. At a bare minimum you'd need MX
                                                      Kollection ($299 US); at best you'd want their summer bundle (at $649
                                                      US).

                                                      I'd recommend looking at the free one from WebWiz. You can download
                                                      it, install it, and play with it to see how it works.

                                                      Also, we didn't ask: what server technology does your server support?
                                                      The WebWiz solution is ASP and will require a Windows server. I'm
                                                      sure there are PHP solutions out there, but since I don't work in PHP
                                                      I can't recommend one.

                                                      Win
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                                                      • 24. Re: Article Website
                                                        Level 7
                                                        On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:42:20 -0700, "Alan Smithee Jr." <spam@this.org>
                                                        wrote:

                                                        >One could infer something quite sexist and ill fitting to ascribe the "ette"
                                                        >in the sense of being diminutive (which is what it means
                                                        >inguistically) -ie- that females are less than males. To diminutize any of
                                                        >your examples by adding the "ette" to denote female gender could well be
                                                        >considered pejorative.
                                                        >

                                                        Well, I AM short, so I guess it fits for that reason too!

                                                        Alan, my purpose wasn't to supply a feminine version of "dude" so much
                                                        as it was to remind a new poster that not everyone here is male.
                                                        Sometimes that gets lost in the shuffle, and I realize the short
                                                        version of my name isn't necessarily going to make the distinction on
                                                        its own.

                                                        I get plenty of snail mail addressed to Mr. Win Day. If I'm in a
                                                        particularly snarky mood, and especially if it's someone trying to
                                                        sell me something, I'll send a nasty little note back about why I
                                                        would never in a million years buy something from a company whose
                                                        sales people couldn't be bothered to figure out how to address a
                                                        letter.

                                                        When in doubt, leave it out!

                                                        Win
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                                                        • 25. Re: Article Website
                                                          Level 7
                                                          > I wouldn't rely on Wikipedia. It's no better than its most
                                                          ill-informed contributor...


                                                          Yes. I know. In this instance the information is quite accurate. I also
                                                          understand Winnifred's position.
                                                          This all began as a silly linguistic observation, but then it occurred to be
                                                          that there was actually something that might actually be rather negative
                                                          about the whole notion, but no reason to continue to belabour the point any
                                                          further. Sorry for butting in.




                                                          • 26. Re: Article Website
                                                            Da_Ones Level 1
                                                            Wow, this is a completely turned into a new topic! Heh, anyways....

                                                            Which free one are you talking about at WebWiz? The news access? Got it...but it's gonna be hard to script and create all the necessary things since I'm just a kid...any recommendations or links?
                                                            • 27. Re: Article Website
                                                              Level 7
                                                              On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:39:02 +0000 (UTC), "Da Ones"
                                                              <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

                                                              >Wow, this is a completely turned into a new topic! Heh, anyways....
                                                              >
                                                              > Which free one are you talking about at WebWiz? The news access? Got it...but
                                                              >it's gonna be hard to script and create all the necessary things since I'm just
                                                              >a kid...any recommendations or links?

                                                              Yes, the free news one. It's not too hard to incorporate it into an
                                                              existing site design - if you're familiar with ASP.

                                                              If you're not, then you probably won't be able to customize any of the
                                                              pre-built solutions, nor build one from scratch yourself. Sorry to be
                                                              so harsh.

                                                              Any chance you can subcontract out that part? Or use the WebWiz one
                                                              pretty much right out of the box?

                                                              Win
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