7 Replies Latest reply on Jan 9, 2008 12:47 PM by ginafromtampa

    Code changes when upgrading to RH7

    ---Dirk_Bock Level 1
      We need do make a lot of translations and use a translation memory system for this purpose. We have built up a lot of topics in several languages which are used for the translation of new topics. The translation memory compares the sentences in the new topics to those found in the old material, automatically translating identical sentences and proposing similar sentences to the translator.

      When upgrading to RH7 changes the HTML code, we run the risk of losing the benefit of the existing transaltions, if the changes are too much for the tranlsation memory system to handle.

      Has anyone out there already worked with the combination of old topics in translation memory (STAR Transit) and upgraded topics in a new translation project?

      Is there an option not to make the code changes?

      Regards

      ---Dirk Bock
        • 1. Re: Code changes when upgrading to RH7
          Peter Grainge Adobe Community Professional (Moderator)
          Dirk

          There is no option not to change the code. I know next to nothing about translation work but if it is working on your content, that doesn't change. Am i missing a point?

          • 2. Re: Code changes when upgrading to RH7
            ---Dirk_Bock Level 1
            Peter

            The fuzzy match mechanism of the TMS compares the sentences to be translated to those, which have been translated already. Non-contents stuff, like tags, are disregarded - but not completely. If the number of characters making up a tag changes drastically, the TMS will not find the translation even though the actual contents is the same.
            • 3. Re: Code changes when upgrading to RH7
              Peter Grainge Adobe Community Professional (Moderator)
              OK I understand your concern. No change in the code but the TMS will still not match it.

              • 4. Re: Code changes when upgrading to RH7
                Akshay Madan Adobe Employee
                Hi Dirk,

                I don't think that you will feel the pinch as we have not made much changes in the output code. The output code was always clean. It is the intermediate code (the code that you see in the HTML editor) whcih has been improved. Also, the most of the cleanup in the final code is about removal of unnecessary HTML comments or small fixes. My best guess is that your translation memory would work as it used to and you will not find much difficultly in finding the newly updated content if you run the same on the final Webhelp output. However, I would still suggest that you run some tests before upgrading your system. Also, do let me knwo if you find any difficulty. I would be more than happy to assist you in any way.

                Thanks,
                Akshay (amadan@adobe.com)
                Product Manager - Adobe RoboHelp
                • 5. Re: Code changes when upgrading to RH7
                  JBCampo Level 1
                  We localize in-house from English into 12 languages. We are investigating upgrading our RoboHTML2002 to RH7. Our translators use Trados with Tag Editor. Initial translator tests show some minor fuzzy matches that used to be 100 pct matches. But the majority of the converted RH7 topics come thru clean. For the most part, greater than 90 percent of the original 100pct matches still come thru as 100 pct matches.
                  We are having TOC problems in our tests, but are researching workarounds.
                  Hope that helps.
                  JoeC
                  • 6. Re: Code changes when upgrading to RH7
                    ginafromtampa Level 1
                    I upgraded to RoboHelp 7 and noticed when I did a difference report in Beyond Compare, that the kadov tags were indeed removed. I'm talking with our translation company to see how they will charge us when this comes up as a fuzzy match.
                    • 7. Re: Code changes when upgrading to RH7
                      ginafromtampa Level 1
                      I upgraded to RoboHelp 7 and noticed when I did a difference report in Beyond Compare, that the kadov tags were indeed removed. I'm talking with our translation company to see how they will charge us when this comes up as a fuzzy match.