14 Replies Latest reply: Aug 17, 2013 8:32 AM by Noel Carboni RSS

    Lens Flare, size the sample?

    hawk318@comcast.net Community Member

         Is there a way to increase the size of the "Lens Flare" sample? I tried to set a couple of lens flares on a pic I'm working on, but the sample is so small I cannot see where the flare is winding up until I click ok and the flare shows on the pic (and is a mile off)

       

         I need to see if there is a way to either enlarge the 'sample' or get the flare to show on the pic so I an see where to place it exactly.

       

      I've found several other 'sample(s)' windows are far too small to do any good... surely there has to be some way to enlarge them?

       

      Or at least to get the Flare to show on the  big pic like some of the other filters do as you use them...

       

      Thanks in advance.

        • 1. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
          Noel Carboni Community Member

          Nope.  That's an ancient plug-in dialog, and it really could stand to be updated.

           

          -Noel

          • 2. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
            hawk318@comcast.net Community Member

            Aww crap...was afraid of that... Thanx for the reply (even if it was bad news ;-)

             

            Wonder how the APS devs ever figured anyone to accurately use "lens flare" with such a tiny window for their filters and such, when tey are far to small to be useful and without them, what's the point if you can't use the filter with any pic...

             

            Just doesn't make sense... Lol, add a feature that can't always be used...

            • 3. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
              Noel Carboni Community Member

              You could render it on a perfectly black layer above the one you'd like it to add to, set the mixing mode to Screen blending, then fine tune the result by moving the layer around...  Just sayin'. 

               

              -Noel

              • 4. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                Mylenium MVP

                If flares are realyl that important to you, buy Knoll Light Factory.

                 

                Mylenium

                • 5. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                  conroy Community Member

                  hawk318@comcast.net wrote:

                   

                   

                  Just doesn't make sense... Lol, add a feature that can't always be used...

                   

                  The minuscule preview would have made sense when the filter was added... maybe 20 years ago.

                   

                  Even at that tiny size, a computer back then would have been struggling to give the user reasonably quick feedback as the controls are adjusted.

                   

                  Take a look at Radial Blur filter.

                  • 6. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                    Noel Carboni Community Member

                    The subject comes up from time to time, and I'll just vent again: 

                     

                    A lot of old stuff in Photoshop that was "good enough" at the time really, REALLY needs to be revisited.  A moderization project both to update the UI for old filters and also to spruce up the code to be able to handle deep data (not to mention multi-threading) is long overdue.

                     

                    -Noel

                    • 7. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                      hawk318@comcast.net Community Member

                      Thanx guys... Am just an occasional user and don't have a lot of knowledge of APS. It just doesn't make sense to me why with the uses of so many of the filters and apps, that Adobe hasn't made all their 'previews' like the other ones where you can see the results of changes on the main pic as one used the app/filter.

                       

                      @Noel... Had thought about using (it would have to been 2 layers), but upon creating the 1st layer/overlay, I couldn't shrink the flare enough to make it viable for what I wanted to begin with (another draw back to lens flare)

                      I did use it (lens flare) in my latest 'zombie' book cover and it did work in that instance...

                       

                      @ Mylenium & conroy... I'd have a look if I used APS a lot. Lol, I mainly just play with the pgm now and then. Other pgms just wouldn't pay (unless I get board with writing and take up graphics ;-)

                       

                      Mostly use APS for book covers for my on-line novels, and that's about it.... Just thought it weird that APS (for the cost) hass these little quirks that haven't been addressed through all the versions of APS I've had over the years.

                      • 8. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                        Noel Carboni Community Member

                        I don't know what kind of flares you are trying to achieve, but I have a plug-in of my own design (several, actually) that create star filter effects and some flare...  Run the free trial and see if this software does what you need.

                         

                        http://www.prodigitalsoftware.com/Products.html

                         

                        -Noel

                        • 9. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                          PECourtejoie ACP

                          Hello!

                          If you want pixel perfect positionning in the Lens Flare filter, mouse over the section you want to position it, look at its X, Y position in the info panel (make sure it's set to pixels).

                          Now, launch the lens flare filter, and alt+click on the preview to be able to enter the X, Y position.

                          • 10. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                            hawk318@comcast.net Community Member

                            @PEC...Yep that works ok...thnx...

                             

                            @Noel... Tried your two star pgms (and they picked up what I wanted) I played around with it a bit and created a layer added white to the areas I also wanted to be detected and your pgm picked all the whilte up and starbursted them... While they did what they promised...

                             

                            I couldn't figure out how to do one at a time or add various levels... Even with several layers, your 'pro' changed all starbursts...even when layers were flattened...

                            Maybe I was doing something wrong, but I was looking for something where I could do a seperate starburst(s) per layer... and perhaps add a color to the effect.

                            • 11. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                              Noel Carboni Community Member

                              You can set the Quantity slider to 0 (which will generate no effects), then use the + tool along the left side to click on light sources for which you want effects.  Or you can just select around the light source(s) for which you want effects before running the plug-in.

                               

                              -Noel

                              • 12. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                                TadCh3va7 Community Member

                                The lens flare dimensions appear to be based on the image's. If you need one larger than what you're getting, create a new, larger file and make it there. I needed a smaller one (working with 1900x1200) and finally figured this out (600x600 black background file in this case).

                                 

                                It's pretty annoying that there appears to be no way to change the color it uses. Maybe I just haven't found the right setting(s). So far what works best for me is replacing the colors. Does anyone know if there's a way to change the color it begins with? Using CS6. Thanks!

                                • 13. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                                  Trevor.Dennis MVP

                                  I genneraly use custom brushes rather than the lens flare filter.  Much more control over everything.

                                   

                                  [EDIT]  If interested in doing it this way, have a look for 'Flare brushes by Karl S2'

                                  http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?event=extensionDetail&extid=1040911

                                  • 14. Re: Lens Flare, size the sample?
                                    Noel Carboni Community Member

                                    Sounds like what's needed is a more sophisticated lens flare plug-in... 

                                     

                                    -Noel