7 Replies Latest reply: Mar 30, 2013 11:36 AM by PierreLouisBeranek RSS

    'Zoom to Keyframes' in Effect Controls Window

    PierreLouisBeranek Community Member

      Here are my 2 latest FRs.  Please resend to Adobe as your own FRs if you like the ideas!

       

      *******Enhancement / FMR*********

      Brief title for your desired feature: Zoom to Keyframes

       

      How would you like the feature to work?

      The same way Shift-Z can be used to Zoom to Timeline, it would be amazing if Shift-Z (or another shortcut) could be used to 'Zoom to Keyframes' whenever the ECW is the active window.  This way, getting keyframes outside a clip's range into view for editing would be a quick 1 step process.  Using the same shortcut again could toggle back to the default 'Pin to Clip' view.

       

      Why is this feature important to you?

      This proposed feature would be much faster to use compared to the current 'Pin to Clip' option in the ECW's Wing menu.  When deselecting 'Pin to Clip', the zoom level remains the same, thus forcing the user to go through the added steps of zooming/scrolling/adjusting to get the keyframes into comfortable view for editing.  A 1 step 'Zoom to Keyframes' toggle would be much more convenient than the current 'Disable 'Pin to Clip', zoom/scroll/adjust' method!

       

       

       

      *******Enhancement / FMR*********

      Brief title for your desired feature:  Auto zoom to keyframes when disabling 'Pin to Clip'

       

      How would you like the feature to work?

      When disabling 'Pin to Clip' in order to see and edit keyframes that fall outside the bounds of a clip in the ECW, it would be very handy it the ECW's zoom level automatically defaulted to the correct setting in order to see all keyframes at a comfortable level. i.e. left(right)-most keyframe placed at the left(right) edge of the ECW, such that the all of the clip's keyframes fit across the visible work area.  This would work the same way 'Zoom to Timeline' works, however it would be invoked automatically.  Turning 'Pin to Clip' back on would automatically revert to the previous zoom level.

       

      Why is this feature important to you?

      An automatic 'Zoom to keyframes' feature in the ECW would make keyframe editing that much faster and more pleasant. 

        • 1. Re: 'Zoom to Keyframes' in Effect Controls Window
          J. Simon Community Member

          I'd prefer if Adobe just entirely got rid of mouse wheel zooming without the ALT modifier and returned the mouse wheel to it's proper scrolling behavior, as it was in all pervious versions of Premiere Pro.  Then just Unpin and Scroll.  Simple, efficient, workable.

          • 2. Re: 'Zoom to Keyframes' in Effect Controls Window
            PierreLouisBeranek Community Member

            Are you serious or just trying to play devil's advocate?  Why would anyone prefer a multistep approach to an instantaneous, fool-proof method that requires zero additional user effort? It doesn't make any sense,  unless you actually like to waste time on additional steps that could easily be avoided with the program tweak I suggest.

            • 3. Re: 'Zoom to Keyframes' in Effect Controls Window
              J. Simon Community Member

              I think ease of programming is the advantage of my version.  I find the zoom level sufficient when Unpinning, it's just damn difficult to drag the scroll bar to get to where I need to go.  If I could scroll with the mouse wheel, code which is already in the program for other windows, we'd have more refined control, and life would be easier.

              • 4. Re: 'Zoom to Keyframes' in Effect Controls Window
                PierreLouisBeranek Community Member

                Ease of programming is the advantage of your version?  So you'd rather see Adobe take the easy, complacent way out than see them put forward an honest effort to improve PP with inovative, albeit perhaps slightly harder to program, tools? (I believe Adobe already does put forward an honest effort, although it's sometimes misguided, wasting resources on tools that nobody uses instead of giving us what we actually need.  'Find Faces' anyone?).  If everyone thought like you, we'd all be using command prompt OSes.  GUI?  Who needs a GUI?  Command prompt has more 'ease of programming'.  As another user recently mentioned, I'm glad you are not part of the Adobe programming team Jim.  No offense.

                 

                I agree that an easier way to scroll left/right on the ECW's clip would we very welcome, since having to mouse over the zoom bar is a tedious, unecessary pain.  I'll add my own FR for this (After all, why should mouse-wheel zooming and scrolling be allowed by mousing over any part of the Timeline, but not in the ECW?)

                However, one improvement need not exclude another.  Your posts would come across as far more amicable and less obstinate if you wrote along the lines of 'my idea could complement yours' rather than 'I'd prefer a smaller improvement than the one suggested since it would be easier for Adobe to program'.

                • 5. Re: 'Zoom to Keyframes' in Effect Controls Window
                  PierreLouisBeranek Community Member

                  Here's the FR I just posted.  Does this fit along the lines of what you were suggesting Jim?  If so, please post as your own FR.

                   

                  *******Enhancement / FMR*********

                  Brief title for your desired feature: Mouse wheel scroll/zooming ANYWHERE in ECW

                   

                  How would you like the feature to work?

                  Just like users can use the mouse wheel to zoom and scroll a sequence by mousing over ANY part of the Timeline, it would be a great usability improvement for users to be allowed to do so in the ECW while moused over any part of the window instead of just over the tiny zoom bar. 

                   

                  Furthermore, the keyboard modifiers should remain consistent between the Timeline and the ECW.  Thus, if ALT-mouse wheeling zooms in the Timeline, it should also zoom in the ECW! 

                   

                  Why the current lack of consistency?

                   

                  Why is this feature important to you?

                  Consistency, consistency, consistency!  Consistency in a GUI makes it all the more user friendly, discoverable and efficient.  For some reason, Adobe has painfully low consistency in its software, both between applications and between windows/element in single apps. Dedicating resources to a special 'Consistency Creation Task Force', or even more resources should an initiative like this already exist, could do wonders towards improving the software we use and depend on.  Thank you!

                  • 6. Re: 'Zoom to Keyframes' in Effect Controls Window
                    J. Simon Community Member

                    you'd rather see Adobe take the easy, complacent way out than see them put forward an honest effort to improve PP with inovative, albeit perhaps slightly harder to program, tools?

                     

                    Yes.  That's exactly my point here.  Well interpreted.

                    • 7. Re: 'Zoom to Keyframes' in Effect Controls Window
                      PierreLouisBeranek Community Member

                      Unless you're beeing ironic, I'm baffled that that's the actual point you were trying to make.    Well, I guess I have nothing more to add.