14 Replies Latest reply on Mar 31, 2013 5:57 PM by the_wine_snob

    Quality of videos once burned to DVD R

    Denisebeau

      I have burned several videos onto DVD R using the "widescreen" save and still, the quality of the videos are truly not at the level they use to be when using another software (Nero). 

       

      I wish I could resolve this issue as I have spent lots of time learning my new software - Premiere Elements 11.

       

      Help

       

      Denise

        • 1. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
          John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          What are you editing (exact codec and settings) and what are your share settings?

          • 2. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
            Denisebeau Level 1

            John,

             

            I don't understand what you mean by "exact codec and settings"? 

             

            As for my shared settings, I have used "DVD + NTSC_widescreen_DolbyDVD"

             

            Denise

            • 3. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
              the_wine_snob Level 9

              Welcome to the forum.

               

              As the DVD-Video specs. are pretty limited, there is usually not that much difference between a DVD-Video authored in one program vs another. There CAN be some differences, Hollywood Transcoders with 10+ pass encoding is a good example, but with consumer, or low-level pro authoring program, not all THAT much. For consumer programs, an MPEG-2 DVD (the end product, wrapped in a VOB container) is pretty much the same.

               

              You mention both PrE and Nero. It could get down to a quality setting for the Transcoding, between those two programs.

               

              Let's start with your workflow in both PrE and then Nero. There might be something obvious there.

               

              Then, if you would give us the settings (not really that many) in both PrE and Nero. Again, there might be something different there.

               

              Good luck, and please let us know a bit more,

               

              Hunt

              • 4. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                Denisebeau Level 1

                I hope I understand what you mean by workflow:

                 

                Nero:

                I initially make my movie/slide show by selecting the option:  NTSC + HDTV Full HD (1920X1080)

                Than I make my movie. 

                Once my movie is completed, I export it to my C drive as:  MPEG 2 + DVD Video Comptatible (720X 480)

                Than I move it to import to DVD

                Than I burn it to DVD

                 

                PrE

                My project setting is at HD 1080

                Video frame size - 1920 X 1080

                 

                I start by restorting "workspace" prior to adding media to my window

                I had my media files, clip them and than move them to the timeline. 

                Once I've selected and completed my movie - using "movie menu" I just click  the "publish + share" menu and go to DVD and use the NTSC WidescreenDolby DVD format.

                 

                Thanks for your help.

                 

                Denise

                 

                 

                • 5. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                  the_wine_snob Level 9

                  Denise,

                   

                  That is close, and very useful.

                   

                  Let's set back a bit, just so that we have all of the details, please.

                   

                  Are you doing all of your editing in PrE? I realize that you are doing the authoring function in both PrE and Nero.

                  You are starting with an HD (High Def) Project in PrE, with matching source footage. Is that correct?

                  For DVD-Video (NTSC), one would need to down-rez that PrE Project to 720 x 480 and probably Widescreen 16:9. What are the exact steps for that down-rezzing?

                   

                  Is PrE your only NLE (Non Linear Editor) for both authoring operations, PrE and Nero, that you are using?

                   

                  If so, exactly what are you feeding into Nero? The more detail of that file, the better.

                   

                  Then, as both Nero and PrE can author a DVD-Video, what were the exact settings chosen in each. Those might be something like Bit-Rate, or the similar equivalent, Quality?

                   

                  What I am trying to do here, is distill as many possible variables, as I can. When an outcome is different, and the Source Footage is the same, then something is different in the workflows. That is what I am attmpting to find out.

                   

                  Good luck, and I apologize for all of the questions,

                   

                  Hunt

                   

                  PS - Also, if you could list the exact Nero program and version, that you are using, that might be helpful.

                  • 6. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                    Denisebeau Level 1

                    Are you doing all of your editing in PrE?

                     

                    Yes

                     

                    I realize that you are doing the authoring function in both PrE and Nero.

                    You are starting with an HD (High Def) Project in PrE, with matching source footage. Is that correct?

                     

                    I am using two sources (two different video cameras) and both of them have High Def footage.

                     

                     

                    For DVD-Video (NTSC), one would need to down-rez that PrE Project to 720 x 480 and probably Widescreen 16:9. What are the exact steps for that down-rezzing?

                     

                    Using Nero, when I export the video footage, it gives  me several options, one of them being 720X480.  Having said that, I don't necessarily need to downsize to that resolution (720 X 480)  as long as I can have the quality of the video stay the same.  Could I choose to burn it to AVCH  - 1920 X 1080 format so that I can keep it at the same resolution?   

                    Is PrE your only NLE (Non Linear Editor) for both authoring operations, PrE and Nero, that you are using?

                    I edit my videos - using Nero and its editor as far as Nero is concerned.

                     

                    As for Premiere elements, I use Premiere elements to edit my videos

                     

                    If so, exactly what are you feeding into Nero?

                    The files I feed into Nero are marked as "MOV file" and "MTS file", from two different video cameras. 

                     

                    The more detail of that file, the better.

                    Then, as both Nero and PrE can author a DVD-Video, what were the exact settings chosen in each. Those might be something like Bit-Rate, or the similar equivalent, Quality? 

                    Don't understand this question - sorry...

                     

                    List the exact Nero program and version, that you are using, that might be helpful.

                    Nero Video Preminum HD

                    Version 10

                     

                     

                    Denise

                    • 7. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                      the_wine_snob Level 9

                      OK, you are only using the same footage, the MOV and MTS original Video files, and doing all of the editing in Nero, through the authoring part, going to DVD-Video, there, and then, doing separate editing in PrE, and using it to then do the authoring. Is that correct?

                       

                      If so, back in PrE, what is your Project Preset for that HD footage?

                       

                      As for an AVCHD disc, yes, you could create such, BUT it will not be a DVD-Video, which is what I think we are talking about. AVCHD is similar, at least in Frame Size and resolution, to BD (Blu-ray Disc).

                       

                      Good luck,

                       

                      Hunt

                      • 8. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                        Denisebeau Level 1

                        OK, you are only using the same footage, the MOV and MTS original Video files, and doing all of the editing in Nero, through the authoring part, going to DVD-Video, there, and then, doing separate editing in PrE, and using it to then do the authoring. Is that correct?

                        That is correct

                        If so, back in PrE, what is your Project Preset for that HD footage?

                         

                        My project setting is at HD 1080

                        Video frame size - 1920 X 1080

                        As for an AVCHD disc, yes, you could create such, BUT it will not be a DVD-Video, which is what I think we are talking about. AVCHD is similar, at least in Frame Size and resolution, to BD (Blu-ray Disc).

                        ok - thanks appreciate the clarification

                         

                         

                        Denise

                        • 9. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                          the_wine_snob Level 9

                          Denise,

                           

                          I just read three reviews for Nero Video Premium HD, but not one reviewer went into real details on down-rezzing, or even the settings for authoring. Most talked of other things, so I have nothing to offer there.

                           

                          It could well be that it just does a better job (uses a better down-rezzing algorithm) at the down-rezzing, than PrE does. It could also be that when authoring, it's default settings offer higher quality (higher Bit-Rates, as it is not likely to do more than 2-pass, like PrE), than does PrE? I just could not gather the info needed to make that determination.

                           

                          Until I can locate some real details, I can only offer that Nero does a better job with the down-rezzing and authoring to DVD-Video, than does PrE.

                           

                          Maybe others will know Nero Video Premium HD better, and can comment on its capabilities, and then we can compare, in an "apples to apples" situation.

                           

                          Wish that I had more to offer,

                           

                          Hunt

                          • 10. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                            Denisebeau Level 1

                            Thanks Bill

                             

                            Lets say for a moment, I didn't want to down resize, how can I obtain a final "quality video" using PrE?

                             

                             

                             

                            Denise

                            • 11. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                              the_wine_snob Level 9

                              DVD-Video is only 720 x 480 (NTSC), so if DVD-Video is the final output, then you have no choices, but to down-rez your HD material. The one option is to create a BD (Blue-ray Disc), instead of a DVD-Video, or an AVCHD disc, which should play on many BD players (it depends on the BD player).

                               

                              Good luck,

                               

                              Hunt

                              • 12. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                                Denisebeau Level 1

                                Thanks Bill for your time and effort

                                 

                                Two final questions

                                 

                                What type of disc must I use to make an AVCHD disc?

                                 

                                If I decide to burn on a blue ray, would I need both a blue ray disc and a blue ray burner?

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                Denise

                                • 13. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                                  John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                  >If I decide to burn on a blue ray, would I need both a blue ray disc and a blue ray burner?

                                   

                                  Yes and yes

                                  • 14. Re: Quality of videos once burned to DVD R
                                    the_wine_snob Level 9

                                    For the AVCHD, you will most likely want a BD disc, unless the Video is very short (about 20 mins. max.).

                                     

                                    For a BD, you will want a BD burner, blank BD media and also a BD player, or BD software player on the computer.

                                     

                                    Hunt