12 Replies Latest reply: Apr 4, 2013 5:02 AM by hetvagg RSS

    Change in Organizer photo import functions?

    hetvagg

      I have a set of master files, each containing a fairly high number of subfiles in a fixed order. Each subfile contains a number of photos, also in a rigidly fixed order. The whole thing is a botanical archive. Formerly I used Organizer with great success: all subfiles with their photos appeared in the catalog in exactly the right order. Now something bad has happened, there is no more a division of the content of a masterfile into subfiles and all photos under a master file appear in a hopelessly mixed order. Worst of all, all my old catalogs have also been corrupted. Can anybody help me, or am I forced to conclude that the Organizer has suddenly become useless for my purposes?

      Kurt N.

        • 1. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
          andaleebfatima1 Adobe Employee

          Which version of PSE you have?

          Also, what type of files are these?

          Can you please share a screenshot of the Organizer windows pointing where the problem is?

           

          Thanks

          Andaleeb

          • 2. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
            hetvagg Community Member

            PSE 11. The subfiles are just normal Windows files, containing photos. I cannot submit a picture of the previous screen since that is now lost.

            Anyway, when I imported a master file, all the subfiles appeared in alphabetical order, as they should, divided by horizontal lines, and all photos in the subfile also shown in the right order. The best I can get now (when I try to make a PDF) is all the photos in the right order, but starting from the wrong end! If that order could be reversed I would be truly happy.

            • 3. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
              andaleebfatima1 Adobe Employee

              Please see if selecting "Newest" or "Oldest" from the Sort by dropdown reverses the order of these files to your requirement.

              This dropdown will be present in the top left corner of the media grid.

               

              Thanks

              Andaleeb

              • 4. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
                hetvagg Community Member

                No, it does not help, I tried that before. I forgot to tell one thing, I changed from PSE 7 to PSE 11 recently, and the change in Organizer function happened already when I was using 7.

                Could the explanation be that the capacity of my laptop is too low, so that Organizer presents only the catalog version that the machine is able to handle?

                Thanks for your replies.

                Hetvagg

                • 5. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
                  andaleebfatima1 Adobe Employee

                  You laptop should not be a problem.

                  One thing I still don't understand is that- What type of files are these that contain subfiles?

                  Do you mean "folder" containing "files"? That's why I asked for a screenshot of the app window.

                   

                  Thanks

                  Andaleeb

                  • 6. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
                    hetvagg Community Member

                    Allright, my terminology was certainly wrong. Let me explain. What I called a master file is really a folder, containing a full plant family, e.g.orchids.In this folder there are subfolders for each species of orchid, containing the actual photos in a fixed order. Previously Organizer presented the photos neatly in the right order within the alphabetically listed subfolder frames. Now the photos are still all there, but totally mixed up, and there is no trace of the subfolders. If there is some ordering principle in the present lot, I haven´t been able to identify it.

                    I still suspect that my laptop has terminated cooperation with some program in Organizer.

                     

                    hetvagg

                    • 7. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
                      andaleebfatima1 Adobe Employee

                      Okay now I get it completely.

                       

                      In PSE11 there are two views of folders. Flat folder view which you are seeing upfront and the other is the folder hierarchy view (same as in PSE10). You can switch to Folder tree view by pressing Ctrl+T or by clicking on the small icon net to "My Folders" label in the left panel.

                       

                      Thanks

                      Andaleeb

                      • 8. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
                        hetvagg Community Member

                        It still does not work. I can of course bring up the individual subfolders, one at a time, but every second of these has its photos in reversed order! And I cannot bring up the total lot of photos, in the right order, onto the screen. This I would need to do, in order to make a slide show.

                         

                        hetvagg

                        • 9. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
                          swharton07 Community Member

                          Is the order correct when you look at the folders etc. in Explorer. Since it occurred in PSE 7, prior to you conversion to PSE 11.  I suspect something else happened. Please check Explorer and let us know what order is showing there.

                          • 10. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
                            andaleebfatima1 Adobe Employee

                            If you mean alphabetic sorting then in PSE11, this is not present. You may create an album out of such folders and custom order your images within the album using Sort by album order.

                             

                            Thanks

                            Andaleeb

                            • 11. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
                              MichelBParis CommunityMVP

                              andaleebfatima1 wrote:

                               

                              If you mean alphabetic sorting then in PSE11, this is not present. You may create an album out of such folders and custom order your images within the album using Sort by album order.

                               

                              Thanks

                              Andaleeb

                              That's what I think.

                              The default display order in PSE11 is by date. When in folder view, you can display in newest, oldest or import view order. You also have an option in the menu edit / preference / general tab, to show oldest or newest first within a day if you are in newest first.

                              If you want to create a slideshow from a folder, the quickest way is to right click on the folder and create an instant album. As suggested in the above post, order and select your files manually within the album by moving them around in the browsing space. This creates a custom order which is saved with your album for further use.

                              • 12. Re: Change in Organizer photo import functions?
                                hetvagg Community Member

                                We had better stop this discussion now, Organizer remains useless to me. The hard facts are as follows. I had been using PSE 7 for several years, and everything worked beautifully. The program presented all my photos arranged in their fixed order within the order of the folders. Suddenly, one day last Marsh, Organizer went crazy. I uninstalled the thing and installed it again. Same situation, it didn´t work. I thought this was a clever way to force me to aquire PSE 11, so I did just that. Nothing improved on the Organizer side (Editor seems to be a bit better than in 7, though).

                                Of course I can make a slide show out of my folders, but not with PSE. The other alternatives seem to have one big drawback: I cannot find a way to make the frames advance one at a time, just by left-clicking. They advance now automatically with some fixed interval, and this does not enable me to give more attention to certain frames than to others. In the old Organizer I could achieve exactly what I wanted.

                                 

                                hetvagg