Is anyone on the cloud happy

Nancy do you actually use those Apps? Do you pay more and how much more?

David

I can see that for you this makes total sense and the savings are there. I can also see that you make a living using Adobe software. It is a steal for any bussinss making a good living off the products.

For a Hobyist like me it is three times the price. I am paying products i do not need.

Most importsat Adobe has removed the option to Choose in make case and cancled my upgerade path

David ya the math is 350-500 every two or three years, vs 1800 or more over three years. I cxan see Adobe uping  the price onc subscribers are at a level they like. Then once that hapens you have given up your legacy lic as I understand it .

I can see it good short term for floks fresh out of college. Or long term for a bussines like yours that writes it off either way.

I think once on the cloud people will be stuck with whatever Adobe give them that right now we can choose to upgrade or not and so Adobe has to work to make us happy. On the cloud they can slack off beacuse its all or none and we all need there products.

Since I cannot upgrade I will use my PShop from cs4 i own that. I will use another platform to edit video and will not spend a dime with them.

IF they were not bullying me into the clown then I would upgrade.

As a documentarty filmaker I cannot cough up cash for them every year. i feel that like you said  i could use open source But i chose to do the right thing. I think that Adobe at one point asked that of us. I think Adobe is showing now that they are not about doiung the right thing and the future does not look good.

i wonder at what price point would the cloud be too costly for you, $80-90-100?  What if the rate jacks up next year? what then

well Nancy as long as you can Choose to leave your old lic and go to the cloud, If you are not given a choice then things change. As for me I can use PShop 5 if need be but cs 3 or 4 is fine also The latest version of AE and if it works primere But CS4 in premire was not even close to the promise so I just stcuk with FCPSp really All I need is an upgrade fore AE but i would like to try preimere. I shurly do  not need 17 aps.

For what i do i go work long hours on movie sets as a crew member then when I have time off i work on my project. if when its done I can sell it great. But when Adobe iss trying to foce me to a mothly that is taking money away from the wwhole budget. For me the cloud does not work at all! The idea that i forget about my legacy software is absured. The NAB Adobe sales staff telling me it is my only option is not true. And my respect for  Adobe has gone to about zero

IF you dont upgrade every cycle is a policy created to force you into the cloud Nancy. The Cloud is not cheaper that an upgrade cycle it is much more. Why not alow us to upgrade whats the harm. Adobe could keep us as costomers now. I can go Open source, over to Avid back FCP Vegas whatever. Getting a 300-500 every year or three is better than nothing. I cannot Pay 600 a year. Adobe is shrinking its user base and thinks everyone is going to just pay more.

first 30per mo is a year contract like ATT would  do

so for Production Premium my last upgrade was 350 and honestly I am not a pro so i can skip a cycle and be fine. Infact that was recpomended back in film school. So even if were the high end 500 for an upgrade. with lifetime ownership! over two years is 250, over three if work is   slow or whatever happnens you maybe upgrade in three years. That would be $166 per year.

ON PUFFY its assume the baait switch price of 30 for a year so 360 one year. Then $960 for two years then on three years its. $1666 plus tax! Now tha is a price assuming it does not go up after the first year and stays at the 50 price. So that is my math and i dont lease cars I buy them cash and i do  buy new. I do not live on credit and I firmly belive that we would not have a banking crisis and banking abuse if people would do the math. After reading what you wrote nancy I wonder did you do the math.?

You need an accountant to splain this to you

Well i think Wall Street will Agreee with me So if you own Adobe stock sell because not everyone does there math like you

nancy there is a big diffrence between owing and renting, leasing etc. The term morgage like your home loan in its Root is Mort like death. So a morgage means a contract till death. This is a move to not owning your software you are giving up so much more than you realize. We have a cutlure that lives well beyond its means and if you payed attntion the bank bailout, The skyrocketing then falling housing price, and the crisis were all built aaround this model of a Debt based econmy. Here is the downside for Adobe all the peole who are Not You pros but all the people that like the products will sighn up for 30 bucks. However when the products are to hard to learn and they are not easy. When they are not really using them, and or when times are tough the non pro subscriber will drop the product! So for you maybe it is great for now But for others it is a price increase that is uncalled for indeserved not needed and sold with the Bullying tactic of refusing  upgrades. Now I belive in choice Adobe chose to be greedy, it had a good thing going. Now its loosing people like me likly for good.

I am polite with you. even at 2500 bucks over five years the old way is still cheaper.I thought you said you had a leagcy version sso all you would pay is the upgrades/.

you are right this is a waste of time. Adobe has head me , Enjoy the cloud one small bit of advice packa chute! My experince agrees

PS my mother RIP was a head hunter way back and plaaced many folks at Adobe. She was an Advocate the the bussines be win win just beacuse you see this as a win for you its not a win for other users. beyond that The cloud should be a choice not the only option and that is where we are heading!

Well John you are half right. Adobe cannot predict the future any more than you or I, So why try just make a fixed mothly fee that is a bargin for pros and doable but a stretch for evryone else. Homogonize the line so to speak. I  went to Buffet in vegas that was 50 bucks more than i would spend but I went with friends. I would never select that personally. but outside the constrants of group dinning there are tons of options. With this there are less options. However the cloud is a from here on out thing where the buffet was once. For the long term I mostly cook grassfeed beef fish organic produce and no grain. if i eat out its a healthy place and for a fair price.

now as for target market adobe does not want a taget market it wants a one price fits all set up like tv or internet or phone. it wants to sell a package and for a premium.

The cloud will at first apeal to the jack of all trades master of none type.

Maybe there is the rare nancy that needs all 17 or 18 titles

i dont want the cloud at all i want to upgrade my cs4 lic

back to sqaure one john Adobe lost itss way it is out of integrity. Now who is next? PS i use more than three apps I paid to own a license that sale was framed as being able to upgrade for life. So no matter the twist on the story that should not be taken away.

Out of luck  ohhh thanks

why is there luck involved there is right and wrong what Adobe is up to is bad Bussinesss. hands dowwn my version is two back were not talking  OS9 or anything were talking CS4 to CS6 Trust me they are all about money and the guys like me will leave or go open source

Adobe is out of luck there stock is falling HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA