10 Replies Latest reply: Apr 15, 2013 3:31 PM by the_wine_snob RSS

    I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial

    SteveH59 Community Member

      which shows how to gradually go from B&W to colour in a movie clip.

       

      If I have understood correctly, the entire clip is changed into B&W from colour using the FX Effects tool. Then, after, say, 30% a keyframe is inserted which marks the beginning of the slow transition. A few feet down track, and another keyframe is inserted which marksApplied Effects.jpg

       

      the beginning of full colour. In between these two keyframes is where the transition gradually takes shape using the Saturation bar (Adjust | Colour).

       

      However, in my Applied Effects, I have two Black & Whites (I am not sure why), and I am unable to see how I can insert those keyframes that are required. This is what I can see in Elements 11 (attached).

       

      If anyone could sugegst how I may insert a keyframe, I would be grateful.

       

      Steve

        • 1. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

          Steve,

           

          It appears that the B/W Effect has been added to the Clip twice. Just Delete (Trashcan icon) the bottom one.

           

          Next, go to the little "Stopwatch" at the very top of the Applied Effects Panel, and click it (the one by the >> symbol), to open up the mini-Effects Timeline, where you will see your Keyframes.

           

          Does that help?

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

           

          [Edit] I just checked the B/W Effect, and it is not directly Keyframeable. Let me explore that some more. In the meantime, can you post the link to Steve Grisetti's Muvipix tutorial, so that I can see exactly what he did? TIA

          • 2. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
            the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

            Just experimented with first converting a color Clip to B/W w/ HSL Tuner Effect, and then Keyframed the change over time, to convert the Clip back to full color. I only adjusted the Saturation (-100 for all colors in the beginning) and then added Keyframes for all colors, adjusting the Saturation (0 for all colors at that point). The Clip begins in B/W, and then transitions to full color. Here is a look at the mini-Effects Timeline for the Saturation settings in the HSL Tuner Effect:

            PrE11_B-W_Effect.png

             

            Hope that this helps,

             

            Hunt

             

            PS - for some cool effects, maybe Keyframe the individual colors at different times, for the "return" to full color, so that, say Magenta comes in first, then Cyan, etc.. How that changes the transition time from B/W to full color, will depend on the colors in your Clip - experiment.

            • 3. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
              Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

              That looks a lot like the illustration in the book, Bill! Are you working from the book, Steve?

               

              BTW, any reason why you posted a Muvipix question here instead of on Muvipix.com? I mean, I'm here as often as I'm there -- but you might as well go right to the source, right?

              • 4. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
                the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                Steve G.,

                 

                Is that your new Tips & Tricks book?

                 

                I need to get that puppy on order, as the updates for PrE 11 will be very useful to me - still learning my way around that version.

                 

                Hunt

                • 5. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
                  alsclips Community Member

                  Another way to go from B&W to color is to first cut your clip.  Apply the B&W effect to one half of the clip and leave the other half in color.   Then apply a cross dissolve transition between the two clip halves.  This will cause a smooth transition from B&W to color.  You can adjust the length of the cross dissolve to make the change quick or long.

                  Allan

                  • 6. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
                    Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

                    And that trick is also in the book, Allan!

                    • 7. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
                      SteveH59 Community Member

                      Hello

                       

                      Thanks for all the contributions.

                       

                      Yes,. Steve I should maybe have posted this in Muvipix - I suppose it's just a question of familiarising myself with that forum.

                       

                      I don't have a Web link Hunt for the Muvipix B&W -> Colour transition, but it was a tutorial because I have downloaded it as a Flash file.

                       

                      Regarding what you say about the HSL Tuner - thanks for your efforts and screenshots which I have tried to follow. In Expert View I load in my .mov file. I click on Effects | Color Correction | HSL Tuner and drag that icon to the clip. I go to Applied Effects | HSL Tuner, and click on Saturation, setting the various colours to -100. In the Monitor window the .mov file has become B&W. Then I click on the little blue clock in the Applied Effects panel to add keyframes.

                       

                      Then I move the slider along in the Saturation panel to 0 for each colour and again click on the blue clock in HSL Tuner to add more keyframes, but then I get a message that 'This action will delete existing keyframes'. So that's where I am stuck.

                       

                      Thank you, Allan! I followed your advice and managed to achieve the desired effect!

                       

                      Steve

                      • 8. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
                        the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                        Steve,

                         

                        That "deleting existing Keyframes" indicates that you have clicked on the Reset "stopwatch." You do not want that.

                         

                        Once you have set the first Keyframes, then for each color, where changes are desired, just move the CTI (Current Time Indicator) to the desired point, and click on the Add Keyframe button (the circle in the ◄●►). That will add the new Keyframe. The "arrows" will step you to the Previous, or Next Keyframes).

                         

                        Good luck, and hope that helps.

                         

                        Hunt

                        • 9. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
                          SteveH59 Community Member

                          Hello Hunt

                           

                          I think the penny's dropped!

                           

                          I import the clip and place it on the timeline in Expert View. In Effects, locate HSL Tuner and drag it over the clip in the timeline. Go to Applied Effects, click on HSL Tuner, and select Saturation. Set all colour values to -100 and click the Toggle Animation button once. Move the CTI (Current Time Indicator) about half-way along the timeline. Return to the HSL Tuner (Saturation mode) in Applied Effects and set all colour values to -50, and click the < ♦ > keyframe symbol on the timeline.

                           

                          Move the CTI further along the timeline and return to the HSL Tuner (Saturation mode) in Applied Effects and set all colour values to 0, and click the < ♦ > keyframe symbol on the timeline.

                           

                          Play the movie.

                          • 10. Re: I am trying to follow a Muvipix tutorial
                            the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                            Great news!

                             

                            Until one has worked with Keyframes just a bit, some of the mechanics are a tad alien. With each use of Keyframes, it just becomes second nature.

                             

                            Good luck,

                             

                            Hunt