Impossible to buy software other than cloud?

Stand alone version available fo $399 if I recall correctly. 

I'll try to find you a link.

http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/buying-guide.html

Click on link in first column.

This is from a Chat with Sales Rep on 2/13/13

Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Vallen. How may I help you today?

Vallen: Hi, may I have your first name please?

you: Ken

Vallen: Ken. How can I help you with your purchase today?

you: What is cost of DW standalone (perpetual license ?) USD Now on MX2004 so I assume it's not an upgrade

Vallen: Dreamweaver CS6 is priced at US $399.

you: Run on XP Pro?

Vallen: It is compatible with Windows XP with Service Pack 3 .

As Ken says, you can buy CS6 as an individual product with a perpetual licence. No announcement has been made regarding the availability of the next version.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that Adobe's website creates the very strong impression that Cloud membership or subscription is the only way to get Dreamweaver.

If you dig deeper you can find the purchase links on other pages but that won't help the uninitiated.

Someone misunderstood

As I said... click on the $399 DW price - it takes you to the shoping cart for a non-cloud perpetual license

Agreed Ken, although I think the point being made here is that any newbie going to http://www.adobe.com/products/dreamweaver.html can only see links to the Cloud.

By digging deeper through the buying guide they can find a purchase link for the perpetual license version.

But the most prominent call to action on the website is to join the Cloud.

It sure seems manipulative, but I've long ago given up on figuring out the counter-intuitive choices Adobe makes.

Today's example  - they won't let me buy a full price standalone to run on a new machine, and keep my old version available on my old machine while I learn.

Go figure

they won't let me buy a full price standalone to run on a new machine, and keep my old version available on my old machine while I learn.

WHAT?  That just doesn't make any sense.  What difference does it make if you have old software on your old machine?  You don't have to deactivate one to use the other.

Nancy O.

Agreed - here's today's chat:

you: Please confirm I can run two different versions on two different machines

Irvin: No, you can't run two different versions of 2 different machines.

you: May I ask why - both would be fully licensed - perpetual

Irvin: According to Adobe policy, you can't run two different versions on 2 different machines.

you: Obviously not planning to run both at the same time

Irvin: Is there anything else that may I help you with today?

you: No thanks

Irvin: You're welcome!

Irvin: Thank you for visiting Adobe.com today!

Ken,

Obviously a misinformed associate.  I have DW8 installed on 2 machines.  I

also have CS6 installed on 2 machines. 

N

I can, I can.

Go to Adobe.com

1. Mouse over Products, click on Dreamweaver in the mega menu.
2. Click on Buying Guide.
3. Click on $399 in the comparison chart.
4. Click "Add to Cart".

Nancy O.

Not sure that that would be an intuitive route for an Adobe newbie though when all they see on the initial web page is a plethora of links to the Cloud.

John Waller wrote:

 

Not sure that that would be an intuitive route for an Adobe newbie though when all they see on the initial web page is a plethora of links to the Cloud.

John, I think that is Adobe's way of saying, just buy the Cloud.  I think they want to eliminate the perpetual which is unfortunate, but making it tougher to buy simply skews their numbers so that the Cloud gets the majority of new purchases.  I'm thinking my CS6 Design Premium might be the last of its kind and will probably go away.  I still hold out hope for a $39.99/mo permanent pricing of a smaller design suite instead of paying for video programs I'll never use.

I think that is Adobe's way of saying, just buy the Cloud.  I think they want to eliminate the perpetual which is unfortunate,

Agreed. I got that message loud and clear from Adobe 12 months ago.

Every move they've made in 2012, and 2013 so far, says the Cloud is where almost all future engineering efforts will go (also solves the financial regulation problems for them too) and perpetuals are slowly being strategically positioned to be phased out (frog in the kettle).

There's nothing official on any of that of course but the message is there in the tea leaves.

They have announced (I'd like to say within the last 30 days or so) that there won't be boxed software available in stores anymore, that they're moving to a download only program.

That's one, very small step away from doing a subscription only service.

Ken,  do you know if you can still buy Dreamweaver standalone software without a subscription to the cloud now???

Thanks,

Andy

YES!

Downloads of older Creative Suite Products

http://helpx.adobe.com/download-install.html

Nancy O.

Yes.

See the reply to your earlier question on this subject Can I purchase dreamweaver without purchasing a cloud subscription?

Hi Andy -

My post was from April; other replies are probably more up-to-date.

Good luck pal.