10 Replies Latest reply on Apr 23, 2013 2:24 PM by KurirScreen

    How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?

    KurirScreen Level 1

      Hi

       

      I have tried to set a few still pictures into my video. They were taken with high ISO 4000, with a Full frame camaera (NIKON D600). They look sharp and fine in any photo viewer. But when creatin a video with PE 11 they become VERY noisy/grainy.

       

      WHY, and how do I reduce this noise?

       

      Christian

        • 1. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
          Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

          Have you resized your photos to no larger than 1000x750 pixels in size before you import them into Premiere Elements?

           

          Have you rendered your timeline (by pressing Enter)? You need to render your timeline whenever you see yellow lines above your clips in Expert view. Photos always need to be rendered before you can play them clearly on your timeline.

          • 2. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
            the_wine_snob Level 9

            Welcome to the forum.

             

            Video noise most often shows up, when the Images are underexposed, and then brightened in some way.

             

            I have found Neat Video to be a very good video noise reduction tool. It's 3rd party, not too expensive, and has worked well for me.

             

            There is another product from Neat, Neat Image, which works beautifully on Still Images. It will also work well to remove film grain, in scanned film-captured Images.

             

            What I do not know is if Neat Video will use PrElements as a host application. I know that it works well with PrPro.

             

            Neat Image is available in three ways - a stand-alone, a plug-in for Photoshop (do not know about Photoshop Elements), or as a combo-pack with both.

             

            As Steve comments, doing Image manipulation in Photoshop, or Photoshop Elements is the best way to handle Still Images. While PrE can do some Still Image manipulation/correction, its tools are designed for Video. Photoshop (either version) has far more tools for Stills.

             

            Good luck,

             

            Hunt

            • 3. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
              whsprague Level 4

              KurirScreen wrote:

               

              Hi

               

              I have tried to set a few still pictures into my video. They were taken with high ISO 4000, with a Full frame camaera (NIKON D600). They look sharp and fine in any photo viewer. But when creatin a video with PE 11 they become VERY noisy/grainy.

               

              WHY, and how do I reduce this noise?

               

              Christian

              ISO 4000 is pretty high!   Are they RAW or .jpg?

               

              PrE11 has a effect called "Denoise".  Have you tried it?  It may be that your other photo viewers are processing with a built in denoiser.

               

              I have not yet used the denoise effect, but once applied to a photo there are interesting controls available. 

               

              I have had good results with RAW images that are not resized, but they are all shot at ISO 400 or below. 

               

              Bill

              • 4. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
                Ann Bens Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                Is not the Denoise effect for audio only?

                • 5. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
                  KurirScreen Level 1

                  Hi all,

                  thanks for all the suggestions.

                   

                  I took the photo in RAW, and after it was manipulated I saved it as JPEG. Reason for  the high ISO is it was taken in small theater with minimum light.

                   

                  I tried to reduce size to 1000 x approx 700, it was much better, but far from the original picture.

                   

                  I have not tried to use Neat Video yet (I was hoping to avoid this extra step :-)).

                   

                  Denoising is for audio only as I see it.

                   

                  I will try out more to see what will be the best.

                   

                  Christian

                  • 6. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
                    KurirScreen Level 1

                    Do you then upload then in PE11 as RAW? What if you want to manipulate them, then you need a different format than RAW?

                     

                    Christian

                    • 7. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
                      the_wine_snob Level 9

                      After I process my Camera RAW Images, I Save_As a PSD from Photoshop. PSD is the native format of Photoshop and Photoshop Elements, and are not compressed. They work perfectly in PrE - so long as they are 8-bit RGB. Many Camera RAW formats are shot in 16-bit, and must be converted to 8-bit, but Photoshop makes that very easy. They should already be RGB, so Color Mode should not be an issue.

                       

                      Good luck,

                       

                      Hunt

                      • 8. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
                        whsprague Level 4

                        KurirScreen wrote:

                         

                        Do you then upload then in PE11 as RAW? What if you want to manipulate them, then you need a different format than RAW?

                         

                        Christian

                        Christian,

                         

                        I've done it several different ways, including loading the RAW file directly to Premier Elements straight out of the camera if little needs to be done to the photo.   

                         

                        There is some manipulation available within Premier Elements under the Adjust tab, but not much.  If I need to "work on" a photo a little or a lot I will use Lightroom or Photoshop Elements, or even both.   In that case, I will save the result as a PSD like Hunt says. 

                         

                        I was taking pictures in the Grand Canyon this week shooting multiple exposures on a tripod for HDR processing.  Lightroom made .tif files for the Nik HDR Effects Pro that returned one to Lightroom also in .fif.  I exported them as DNGs for PrE and it worked great.  I think I can shorted a step and use DNGs to go to he Nik program.

                         

                        Bill

                        • 9. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
                          KurirScreen Level 1

                          Thanks for the suggestions. I have the problem only with high ISO. I will try the PSD file.

                          today my 1 month old 2nd HD crashed with all the video editing projects, so it will take a few days before I am back on track :-(

                           

                          Christian

                          • 10. Re: How to reduce noise from still pictures in PE 11?
                            KurirScreen Level 1

                            Hi,

                             

                            I tried to import the PSD file, but no luck - still a lot of noise. Best result so far is to reduce the file size. Why it is so I do not understand.

                             

                            Why does PE turn a high ISO picture into a very noisy picture?

                             

                            Christian