5 Replies Latest reply on Apr 30, 2013 7:16 AM by Eugene Tyson

    What Mac for InDesign user


      Ok so my old buddy who is still sucking from Steve Jobs teat wants to upgrade his Macbook Pro 2007 core 2 duo, yes, C2duo machine to a new Mac. Well of course I tell him he should get a nice MacPro with 6 cores and a GTX680 mac edition card or a little i7 Mac mini with a HD4000 card if he really wants to cheap out.


      So does CS4 use the Mercury Playback Engine that Adobe is always going on about, probaly not. So if he upgrades to CS6/ 7 what is the best cheap mac and expensive mac for him to get and what graphics cards do you suggest?


      He can get a quad core i7 with and HD4000 card, SSD and 16gb ram for about $1400 or a MacPro, yes these are 3 years old with a nice GTX680 for about $3000. Of course the HD4000 is lame compared to the GTX680 but he's using a bloody C2duo so even the mini will be tons faster to this poor bugger!


      Your comments folks and sure he could get an HP  workstation he doesn't have an IT department to figure out all the windows stuff .

        • 1. Re: What Mac for InDesign user
          vuvuzella5084 Level 1

          Wow, no replies - well he ended up getting a mini and we'll put in an SSD and 16 GB of ram.  Guess no one is using Mac here, shame.

          • 2. Re: What Mac for InDesign user
            Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

            Lots of users with Macs here. Perhaps it was your manner.


            We've seen more than one post about problems when using ssd's, by the way, at least in ID, where you cannot set the location of the scratch disk.

            • 3. Re: What Mac for InDesign user
              Eugene Tyson Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              You don't need a monster machine for general graphic design.


              I'm using mostly indesign day in and day out, with a bit of Photoshop and Illy thrown in - sometimes Flash all using CS5.5


              I don't even use a Mac


              Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.130307-0422)

              Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 640 @ 2.13GHz (2 CPUs)

              Memory: 3070MB RAM



              Unless you're doing large amounts of photoshop then I guess a SSD would help to load and save very large files faster.


              I always say 4gb is plenty for RAM

              8gb is plenty for photos

              16gb for extremely large photo/video/animation




              You need processing power well if you're doing a lot of processing! Like video editing or animations - but for general day to day InDesign work having a massive engine in the car won't get you there any faster.

              • 4. Re: What Mac for InDesign user
                BobLevine MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                I disagree with some of that, Eugene.


                With a 64 bit O/S 8 GB of RAM is a bare minimum. I have 16 and I'm

                considering going to 32. With the next version of ID at 64 bit and

                having PS, Illy and ID all open at the same time, there's no limit to

                how much RAM they'll use with the exception of what's in the machine.


                As for SSDs. The real speed there is having the O/S and the apps

                installed on one, not the data.



                • 5. Re: What Mac for InDesign user
                  Eugene Tyson Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  I've been using this machine since 2007 and it's perefectly fine running all the CS5.5 packages that I mentioned, even open at the same time.


                  64 Bit OS does not require a bare minimum of 8gb RAM - at least I don't think so. It can definitely handle more than 4gb RAM bit it's not necessary. 64 bit systems can handle RAM much more efficiently than a 32 Bit system, 4gb would be plenty for every day use, and a little bit of InDesign, photoshop, Ilustrator.


                  I upgraded my home computer from 4gb to 8gb and I don't notice a difference (that's a 64 bit computer) - but then again, I don't do an awful lot in terms of really large images, video editing, or animations.


                  SSDs are great - but they will only really read and write very quickly to the drive. So having a 16gb photogrpah or video editing on the SSD drive would mean it can load and save the file faster than it would on a 5200/7200/10000 rpm hard drive.


                  SSD will improve boot time to almost instaneously.


                  But SSD they won't inheritently make applications run faster - just the load and save times of files.


                  With a 64 bit system 4gb of RAM would be plenty for an InDesign user dealing with magazines (I have several magazines a couple of 100 pages each per year that are all done on the machine spec'd above).


                  When I use my home laptop with Windows 7 and 64 Bit - even photoshop 64bit - I don't see a massive difference in speed or performance...



                  But I do side with Bob on this - RAM is so cheap that you can easily upgrade 4gb to 8gb, or 8gb to 16gb etc.



                  The only drawback on the amount of RAM you can installed is down your processor (CPU) some will not recognise too much RAM. My laptop at home the processor will only work with up to 8gb of RAM and no more.


                  Some processors allow more RAM some don't.


                  Be sure to read up on the specs of the computer and what works together and what doesn't. By adding too much RAM you could end up bottlenecking your system.