There will be no physical media in any form, but you will be able to get conventional downloads of suites and soem standalone products just liek in the past.
I thought so. That will be where my relationship with Adobe dating back to Photoshop 3 (NOT CS3!) ends. I prefer to own my product not be forced into an on-going revenue stream. I am sure many others (non commercial) will feel and act the same? It makes sense for those who use the software for a living to rent it. It makes MASSIVE sense for Adobe who must be rubbing their hands with glee at all the bucks rolling in?
I also suspect that now CS7 is being discussed that Adobe have abandoned CS6 and fixes already? That is what has historically happened so I see no reason anything else will happen? Probably the same for Lightroom 4 also now 5 is out as beta?
The question of whether the software is distribued on disks or by download is an entirely different question than whether the software is licensed by subscription membership or by a one-time fee.
We have already stated that future versions will be distributed by download, not as shrinkwrapped disks. This article covers this well:
Also, regarding fixes for CS6:
We will still be issuing bug-fix updates for CS6. We have many times released bug-fix updates for a version even after the next version is released for sale.
I beg to differ Todd. My memory is that very little comes from Adobe after new version is released? In fact have u tried using a DSLR newer than Photoshop? Even though supporting a new camera via a codec is little effort, Adobe try to force a new purchase of Camera Raw. You are however required to toe the Adobe line I am not. Thanks for the info on the downloads though I would prefer a disk (profit margins? ) however a download is bearable as long as customers realise how cloud storage is ephemeral and even dvd and cd burned disks don't last long?
> I beg to differ Todd. My memory is that very little comes from Adobe after new version is released?
You recall incorrectly. For example...
Here are details about a bug-fix update for CS4 after CS5 was released:
Here are details about a bug-fix update for CS5 after CS5.5 was released:
And, as I said, we will be issuing at least one bug-fix update for CS6 in the future. I don't understand why you would want to argue with me telling you that, since I'm one of the people working on it.
It sounds like you want a perpetual license instead of a software subscription. I've heard of no plans to discontinue purchasing a licensed version.
There is no difference in downloading and burning your own disk, or saving the disk image to a hard drive or flash storage except you need an Internet connection instead of a mail box. I have both a Creative Cloud membership for the entire suite and a perpetual license for the Master Collection. Downloading is certainly more convenient and for me just as good as disks. Even more convenient. I have all of my software downloads stored on a backup HD, in the cloud (not Adobe's but mine) and in an external HD in my safe. I can always get to a backup from nearly anywhere in the world. It sure beats having to have someone FedX me a set of install disks when I have a problem when I'm on location.
BTW, I've been delivering all of my work product for more than 6 years by FTP. Not one of my clients has asked for a DVD since 2005. I do commercial work, this is probably different for many folks, but my stack of DVD-R's is very old and I've only used about 4 of the 25 original BluRay disks I bought. I can't even remember the last time I plugged in the burner.
Now this is weird. On my system the title of this thread is Re: cinema 4d integration if I open the forum from this link:
But if I open from this link:
the title of the thread is "questions about disks for future versions"
Wow, that is weird. Somethings up with the web page. I just bimped into this as well.
I branched the part of the conversation about general matters of future versions off from the conversation about Cinema 4D. The forum software doesn't update the name of the individual posts, just the top-level name of the thread.
To add my customer POV into this discussion, I prefer a DVD over download only for a bunch of reasons. First of it feels more like actually buying and owning stuff. I read some EULAs and I know this is an illusion ut stil... Then of course it's a matter of quality and security. I have tons of burned CDs and DVDs that aren't readable after five years of storage in a dark drawer while "real" CDs and DVDs don't have this kind of issues. I could install AE3 any time without having to worry about read errors or if my ISP, router, network card etc. grant me access to the interwebs.
You may be interested in this article from one of the foremost UK Photographic magazines? http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/539686/adobe-photoshop-rule-change-to-hit- photographers
Looks like maybe I was correct after all?
I did watch the Adobe MAX keynote sessions in realtime so I am aware of the great stuff being done online but other than providing Adobe with a 'regular' income via the cloud most changes were interesting, nice to have but hardly essential.