26 Replies Latest reply: May 1, 2013 5:39 PM by amdmparody RSS

    Problems with Glass Flowers menu template

    amdmparody

      I created DVD slideshow and video using Glass Flowers menu template and am having problems getting menu buttons to function in DVD player.  The buttons are fully functioning on computer.  I have tried multiple DVD players, none will allow me to use buttons.  I have created many DVDs in the past using Premiere Elements 8 using the menu templates provide and have had no problem using them on the same DVD players.  I have used different types of discs and  have also tried buring this to computer and using IMGBurn to burn it to disc.   Nothing is working....

       

      I really like the Glass Flowers menu for the project I am currently working on and would like to keep this as my menu template, could someone help me try and get this functioning?  I am running out of time as I need this completed for an event that is approaching quickly.   Any help will be greatly appreciated!!!

        • 1. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
          A.T. Romano Community Member

          amdmparody

           

          I have lots of versions of Premiere Elements on Windows.

           

          This morning I will create some DVD-VIDEO on DVD, using the Glass Flowers DVD template and check out how my TV Remote control handles the navigation buttons.

           

          What version of Premiere Elements are you using? If 11, then the Glass Flowers should now be included with the program. If earlier version, as I recall, Glass Flowers was a Photoshop.com plus Members Only type. I will also look at the version 11 and earlier Glass Flowers Template to assure that nothing has happened to the template going from Photoshop.com plus Members Only type to the free type.

           

          I do not remember using this template previously in my projects, so it will be interesting to troubleshoot this.

           

          To be continued...

           

          ATR

          • 2. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
            A.T. Romano Community Member

            amdmparody

             

            Progress report. There is a problem with the highlight used in Glass Flowers DVD Template. The Premiere Elements 11 Windows DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc that I just created using that menu

             

            a. Computer-wise, using the CyberLink software that came with my Blu-ray/DVD burner, the highlight (that small box to left of Play All, etc.) was missing. But I could click with the mouse cursor on the text (such as Play All, Scene Selection, and Thumbnails of Scene Menu page) to navigate OK. But, when I viewed that DVD-VIDEO via the TV DVD player, the highlights were again missing, and it became a " Remote Enter/other - Hit or Miss" as to where I would navigate to beyond the main menu.

             

            I need to check my troubleshooting files. I recall troubleshooting a Premiere Elements DVD Menu with that style type of button not so long ago. I will try to find that thread. In that case, my workaround was to suggest the use of another DVD Template OR to go into the .psd file of the problematic DVD Menu (Main Menu & Scene Menu) and replace the highlight layer there.

             

            If it comes to modifying the .psd file of the DVD template, do you have Photoshop CS or higher, and are you with the details for doing that type of modification?

             

            To be continued...

             

            ATR

            • 3. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
              amdmparody Community Member

              I am using Premiere Elements 11

              • 4. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                amdmparody Community Member

                I am so glad that the problem is not just with me.  I too noticed that I was able to navigate blindly so to say.  I so hope there is a solution for this.  Thank you so much for your help as I have been trying to figure this out for over a week.

                 

                As far as modifying, I only have Photoshop 11 and I am not sure I am know how to do that either.  I really hate to change the menu but know that may be my only option.  (this menu's coloring matches almost perfectly the dance theme in which my slideshow is about which is why I really would like to keep it.)

                • 5. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                  Steve Grisetti MVP

                  Since you burned the files to your hard drive before burning them to a disc with ImgBurn, what happens if you open the VIDEO_TS folder with VLC Player on your computer?

                   

                  If it works, then you'll know the problem is with your media (disc) or your player rather than the software.

                  • 6. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                    amdmparody Community Member

                    It does not matter whether it is burned via the program onto the disc or if it is burned to hard drive then burned to disc via imgburn the menu works on computer but not on dvd player.  I have tried burning on two different types of dvds and tried playing it is more than one dvd player along with burning both ways.  From the other poster's comment it appears that it may be a program issue as they also have the same problem when trying to create a menu using glass flowers.

                    • 7. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                      amdmparody Community Member

                      ok to answer your question, I have downloaded VLC and this plays but does not allow me to see menu selections, just as if I had put it into dvd player.  Buttons work but blindly (nothing highlights, points to or anything to indicate what you are selecting).

                      • 8. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                        A.T. Romano Community Member

                        amdmparody

                         

                        It is well known that the VLC player does not play disc menu. In case the subject ever comes up, there is a problem getting VLC player to play "Movie" Blu-ray without some special considerations and procedures described online.

                         

                        Unless SG can definitely say from first hand experience that he has successfully used (computer and TV playback) the Glass Flowers as well as the Fun in the Sun DVD Template as a DVD Template for his DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc project, then I will stand firm on the following,

                         

                        Disc menu navigation is compromised (will not work or will not work properly) with the highlights as implimented for these menus by Adobe. After I took a look at the Glass Flowers menu, it triggered memory of a similar problem that I sought to troubleshoot with a Premiere Elements user using the Fun in the Sun DVD Template. The design looked extremely crowded with small font size. At first I thought that crowding of the shapes used for highlighting was the issue. THE LATTER WAS NOT SHOWN TO BE THE CASE WITH THE GLASS FLOWERS DVD Template when this was looked at this morning.

                         

                        Inspection of the Layers Palette of the .psd file for one of these menus did not reveal any obvious flaw that would cause the problem. The only thing that resolved this issue was going into the .psd file for one of these menus and replacing the highlight layer. Alternatively, going to an entirely different menu was an option (more practical for some).

                         

                        For Glass Flowers Main Menu,  this morning I went through the Layers Palette of the .psd deleting the involved existing  highlight layers and replacing each with a new highlight layer with a Flower 5 shape (same size as what was there originally and with color to coordinate with design). For the Scene Menu, essentially I did the same except more complicated because here the highlight was made to include frame + plus the shape next to the text. Not sure why designed that way, but....

                         

                        When I troubleshooted the Fun in the Sun for a user a while back, that was essentially the same thing minus the unique highlight being used in Glass Flowers Main Menu Scene Menu. And, the answer there was replace the highlight layers or use another DVD Template. I have just found the link to that work at a forum which I no longer visit.

                        http://www.elementsvillage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75787

                        The details of that troubleshooting may prove interesting with regard to the Fun In the Sun DVD Template.

                         

                        I have road tested the modified menus and both are now working well in all cases, involving playback of the DVD-VIDEO with a computer player that supports DVD Menu & DVD-VIDEO playback as well as with the DVD Player of the TV.

                         

                        More detailed information on replacing the highlight layers will be supplied on request.

                         

                        ATR

                        • 9. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                          amdmparody Community Member

                          Thank you for so much information.  As I would really like to still use this template, could you give me information to fix this highlighting issue (provided this is something that can be done within this program or through the Photoshop Elements (versions 11 or 8) programs) as those are the only ones I have access to.  Your help is very much appreciated.  Thank you!!

                          • 10. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                            A.T. Romano Community Member

                            amdmparody

                             

                            What is your project preset for the project you intend to export to DVD-VIDEO and is this going to be DVD-VIDEO standard or widescreen, NTSC or PAL?

                             

                            You need to open the Layer Groups in the .psd for the menu to make the changes. Layer Group is Photoshop, not Photoshop Elements, feature. But it used to be that I could open those Layer Groups in Photoshop Elements 6 and later when Photoshop Elements was running on Windows XP 32 bit. I still can consistently, but, when I went to Photoshop Elements on Windows 7 and 8, I lost the perk, and on rare unexpected moments that perk would become availble and disappear. I still have XP so that is where my DVD menus are edited. Photoshop CS or later is a sure thing for this type of task.

                             

                            If none of the suggested do it yourself works out, please let me know. I have another idea.

                             

                            Thanks.

                             

                            ATR

                            • 11. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                              amdmparody Community Member

                              It was set to NTSC Widescreen Dolby DVD.  My computer is running Windows 7 not XP.  I am thinking this might just be beyond my level of expertise lol.  I am not even sure how to find the file to open it in Photoshop Elements.  I am going to take a look and play with program a bit if I am able to find it.   Maybe I can figure this out.

                              • 12. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                A.T. Romano Community Member

                                amdmparody

                                 

                                Suggested feasibility study to find out if your Photoshop Elements 8 or 11 will open the Layer Groups in the .psd files for Glass Flowers DVD Template. Make sure that you are running your system with Show Hidden Files, Folders, and Drives active. Just in case....

                                 

                                Local Disk C

                                Program Files

                                Adobe

                                Premiere Elements

                                11.0

                                Online

                                DVD Templates

                                All_Lang

                                General

                                Glass Flowers

                                in the Glass Flowers Folder will be the assets for the Glass Flowers DVD Template. Open the Glass Flowers Folder and make copy for each of the following files (assuming that you are working from a NTSC DVD-VIDEO Standard project):

                                 

                                glass flowers_s_mm.psd (that is the .psd file for the main menu)

                                 

                                and

                                 

                                glass flowers_s_sm.psd (that is the .psd file for the scene menu)

                                 

                                IMPORTANT. Those .psd files will not be there for you to copy unless you have first downloaded them from within Premiere Elements 11 Tools/Movie Menu.

                                 

                                Place the copies on the computer desktop and work from them. Right click the .psd of the main menu, select Open With, and then Photoshop Elements 11. When the .psd opens in Photoshop Elements 11, observe if you have:

                                a. just panels representing the major Layer Groups

                                or

                                b. panels representing the major Layer Groups that can be opened by clicking on the triangle to the left of the folder icon for a particular panel

                                 

                                Would you believe all that just worked in my Photoshop Elements 11 running on Windows 7 64 bit. Amazing. Not sure how long that perk will last.

                                 

                                If all that works for you, then I will go into the rest of the story.

                                 

                                Thanks.

                                 

                                ATR

                                • 13. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                  A.T. Romano Community Member

                                  amdmparody

                                   

                                  If you are doing NTSC DVD-VIDEO Widescreen, then go after the files (same location as mention) with the names:

                                   

                                  glass flowers_w_mm.psd (that is the .psd file for the main menu)

                                   

                                  and

                                   

                                  glass flowers_w_sm.psd (that is the .psd file for the scene menu)

                                   

                                  Again, work from the copies. We do not want to change the the originals. Folder/File changes for the copies can come later when we are on a solid path to the goal.

                                   

                                  ATR

                                  • 14. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                    amdmparody Community Member

                                    I only get to the Premiere Elements 11 folder but when I go to find online dvd templates all_lang or any thing following that I cannot find that.  I do see DVD menu but only pan and zoom is there.  I tried searching for folder and can't find it either

                                    • 15. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                      A.T. Romano Community Member

                                      amdmparody

                                       

                                      Let us make sure that Show Hidden Files, Folders, and Drives option is active.

                                      Windows 7

                                      Start

                                      Search Field above Start, type in Folder Options and then click on Folder Options at the top of the list.

                                      In the Folder Options Dialog, open the View Tab and make sure that the Show Hidden Files, Folders, and Drives option is selected.

                                       

                                      Then make sure that you have the correction selection of path on the Local Disk C.

                                       

                                      At first you will see along with others

                                       

                                      Program Files

                                      Program Files (x86)

                                      Program Data

                                       

                                      You want Program Data.

                                       

                                      Everything else in the above path should be correct.

                                       

                                      Major Oops. I went back to check my directions in post #12 and its looks like I incorrectly wrote Program Files (there you can still find Premiere Elements 11 DVD Templates (not the ones we want now). In fact that is the location that I am recommending for the placement of the modified menus. But I do not want to get ahead of the story.

                                       

                                      I will correct post #12 now.

                                       

                                      Sorry for the misdirect. Looking forward to your results.

                                       

                                      Thanks.

                                       

                                      ATR

                                      • 16. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                        amdmparody Community Member

                                        Got them on desktop opened them in ps 11 and weird they are in different language. (probably irrelevant)

                                        • 17. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                          A.T. Romano Community Member

                                          amdmparody

                                           

                                          Not to worry about different language.

                                           

                                          Before we start the edits, we will go through the Layers Palette, Text Layers in Major Layer Sets and set the language that you want. I am assuming English.

                                           

                                          The giant question is can you open the Major Layer Sets in Photoshop 11 on your Windows 7 computer?

                                           

                                          ATR

                                          • 18. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                            amdmparody Community Member

                                            I am not very adept at photoshop elements, I have opened the main menu doc and I am able to see layers on side (I think) but they don't appear to be editable (I could be wrong though) lol

                                            • 19. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                              A.T. Romano Community Member

                                              amdmparody

                                               

                                              I have just finished modifying the widescreen version of the Glass Flowers .psd (main menu and scene menu). Navigation is working for everything (main menu/scene menu). The highlight that I used (flower shape with the same small size as original) could use some pop, but it works. If you send me a private message under the Adobe Your Stuff header, I will go into some alternatives.

                                               

                                              Do not give up.

                                               

                                              ATR

                                              • 20. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                                amdmparody Community Member

                                                I sent you a message.

                                                • 21. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                                  amdmparody Community Member

                                                  The message I sent you appears to be blank in my sent box, please let me know if you did not get it.

                                                  • 22. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                                    A.T. Romano Community Member

                                                    amdmparody

                                                     

                                                    Thanks for the follow up. I just responded to your latest Adobe private message to me. There seems to be a problem in that I received a private message from you but there is no message in the sending.

                                                     

                                                    ATR

                                                    • 23. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                                      amdmparody Community Member

                                                      I tried again and it appears to have gone through, lol, only took a few times.   Sorry for multiple blank messages. ~A

                                                      • 24. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                                        A.T. Romano Community Member

                                                        amdmparody

                                                         

                                                        Thanks. I have received the message content in your private messages.

                                                         

                                                        Let us work through the details of those Glass Flowers DVD Template.psd files with the highlight as a shape for now. Replacing the highlight layer in the involved .psd does solve the problem. My replacement shape needs fine tuning (to put it nicely) but the edited menu does allow for excellent navigation via the TV Remote during playback of the DVD-VIDEO on the DVD player of the TV.

                                                         

                                                        I am working on as version using text as the highlight instead of a shape. Using the text as a highlight might be easier and better appearing??

                                                        In this case, modifying the Scene Menu is a bit more complicated than doing that for the for the Main Menu. The reason that I am finding for this conclusion is that the Scenes highlight in the Scene Selection Page was designed to include two shapes, a small rectangular shape to the left of the name and also a frame.

                                                         

                                                        More later.

                                                         

                                                        Thanks for considering the troubleshooting.

                                                         

                                                        ATR

                                                        • 25. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                                          A.T. Romano Community Member

                                                          amdmparody

                                                           

                                                          Just a quick follow up to say that I have tried using text highlight instead of a shape highlight in that Glass Flowers DVD Template and found the resulting modified main menu and scene menu to have a cleaner look in those crowded spaces in the Adobe design. I guess one could redesign the whole menu, but I did not attempt that this time...just did what was necessary with minimal change to get the Glass Flowers Menu responding to navigation commands (TV and/or computer).

                                                           

                                                          I suspect for most going to an alternative menu is the most practical approach. Although I find these menus easy enough to manage, I must admit that one needs a lot of detailed how to information, patience, time, and attention to detail to edit or create these menus.

                                                           

                                                          As I eluded to earlier, a while back I found the Fun in the Sun DVD Template to fall into the same "not working" category as this Glass Flowers one.

                                                           

                                                          The editing and modifying of the menus in these tests were done with Photoshop Elements 11 which today was working on Windows 7 64 bit. I cannot always depend on it to open those menu .psd Layer Sets. Today it was working. Grateful for that.

                                                           

                                                          More information on request.

                                                           

                                                          ATR

                                                          • 26. Re: Problems with Glass Flowers menu template
                                                            amdmparody Community Member

                                                            Thank you so much for all your help. ~A