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    How do I fix a double exposure?

    Kathwl

      I have some photos I took years ago, and then took some more, on the same film, not realizing I already had photos on the frames, resulting in double exposures.  I want to keep both sets of photos - two different locations, some light scenes, some darker, of people and objects.  How can I best correct these?  I have Adobe Pkhotoshop Elements 9, I believe it is.

        • 1. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
          JJMack Most Valuable Participant

          A double exposure is like a flattened layered composite a single raster layer.  Its not an easy task to separate the composite into two separate layers and you not going to find a general solution most solution will depend on the double exposure contents and I willing to bet  most will be very difficult maybe even impossible to separate.

          • 2. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
            Kathwl Level 1

            Thank you for your reply.  I need step by step instructions though, easy to follow.  I once saw a response from someone within the last year or so, who found a way via photoshop to do this.  I just do not remember who or when, and do not know if I even kept her simple instructions.  So for now I do need simple, step by step instructions to help me on this matter.  I know it is possible, though I do suspect it is not easy.  Thank you so much!  Have a great day!

            • 3. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
              Kathwl Level 1

              An added note.  I wonder if when using the tools to create double exposures, the same tools can be used to separate double exposures?  Any one have any ideas on this?  Also, I still have much to learn in how to use Photo shop, as well.  What I do not like in opening the software, is the dark windows, and extremely small,  almost impossible to read, and sometimes impossible to read, words, as well as the fact that the words blend in too well, to the background.  This is most frustrating, and aggravating.  As a result I am also looking for other products I can see to work with as well.  I hope Adobe does better on this matter, in the future.  Otherwise, they have some good products.  Thank you and have a great day!

              • 4. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                Level 5

                Sorry, but you don't even have Photoshop.  You have Photoshop Elements, which is not Photoshop. 

                 

                The Photoshop Elements forum is here:

                http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop_elements

                 

                If you "need step by step instructions though, easy to follow", I can honestly tell you the task would be well beyond your capabilities, even if Elements had the functionality needed, which only the folks at the Elements forum can tell you.

                 

                I doubt very, very much that anyone ever attempted and succeeded at rescuing a whole roll of double exposures, even with the full version of Photoshop.  A single, accidental double exposure maybe, depending on the nature of both exposures, but that would be a forensics-type of operation without much expectation of quality in the final result.  Even that would take many hours of work—and considerable Photoshop experience and skills.

                • 5. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                  Kathwl Level 1

                  What is the difference?  I tought Photoshop Elements was Photoshop and saying Photoshop was just a shortened term for Photoshop Elements?

                  • 6. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                    JJMack Most Valuable Participant

                    It is easy to simulate a double exposure in Photoshop by using layers and changing their opacity so they blend together as a composite. If you do not flatten the layers the images are in reality still separate.  If you flattens the layers you are no longer simulating a double exposure you have one.  You have the same difficult task your facing. There is no step by step for there is no general solution. Each double exposure will require steps suited to its contents. Some (maybe most) will be impossible to separate using Photoshop tools.

                    • 7. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                      Kathwl Level 1

                      I checked the link you gave me, and no one is on that.  So no help there?  So truly, what is the difference between Photoshop and Elements.  I do not understand.

                      • 8. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                        JJMack Most Valuable Participant

                        Kathwl wrote:

                         

                        What is the difference?  I tought Photoshop Elements was Photoshop and saying Photoshop was just a shortened term for Photoshop Elements?

                        Photoshop Element is more or less a subset of Photoshop.  Elements does not have many of Photoshop's more powerful features or full support of some features. However it does has some additional hand holding feature for the novice user added in. Photoshop cost $700 Photoshop Extended $1000 and Elements cost $100 there is a big difference.

                        • 9. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                          Level 5

                          Elements is an inexpensive, cheap, bargain-basement, simplified version of the application that has only a small subset of the functionalities of Photoshop.  It sells for as little as around $85 or so.

                           

                          Photoshop is a professional-level application that makes no apologies for its long and steep learning curve. It sells for around $700 or so.

                           

                          You need to be patient at the Elements forum.  They will answer your questions there eventually.  Very few Adobe forums are as active as this Photoshop forum.

                          • 10. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                            Level 5

                            See here:

                             

                            http://forums.adobe.com/message/4568487#4568487

                             

                            What is Photoshop CS# (PSCS)?

                             

                            Photoshop is a professional tool used throughout many industries as the standard for digital image manipulation and painting. It has very rich, and often complex, tools and options. As such, it comes with a professional price tag.

                             

                            What is Photoshop Elements (PSE)?

                             

                            Photosohp Elements is a consumer product. It's made for users who don't need as many features and complex options. It has a simpler design, guided workflows, and an organizer to help you manage your files.

                             

                            What are the some of the specific differences?

                             

                            This side-by-side comparison provides an overview on the differences between the various versions of the Photoshop Family of products:

                             

                            Here is a list of some of the major differences between Photoshop Elements and Photoshop:

                            • Adobe Camera Raw differences between Photoshop and Photoshop Elements
                            • Photoshop Elements comes with a database driven Digital Asset Management application called Elements Organizer. Photoshop comes with Bridge, a file navigation system that operates much like Windows Explorer or Macintosh Finder. While there are several functions that both Organizer and Bridge use, they are fundamentally different applications and serve different purposes.
                            • Photoshop Elements does not support the following color modes: Duotone, CMYK, Lab, Multichannel
                            • There is very little 16-bit support in Photshop Elements. You cannot create or convert an image to 16-bit, only open images that are already 16-bit. While working with a 16-bit image you cannot work with layers. The following tools do not work: Magic Wand, Selection Brush, the family of Type tools, Recompose, Cookie Cutter, Straighten, the brush based tools (Paint Brush, Eraser, Dodge, Blur, etc), or the shape based tools (Rectangle, Ellipse, Custom Shape, etc). Many filters do not work, mainly those featured in the Filter Gallery.
                            • Photoshop Elements does not fully support Smart Objects. While you can open files that already have Smart Object layers, you cannot create Smart Objects nor open the files embedded as Smart Objects.
                            • Photoshop Elements does not have a Channels panel. Nor does it have the Channel Mixer Adjustment/Enhancement.
                            • Photoshop Elements cannot merge multiple/bracketed photo exposures into an HDRimage. There is no support for 32-bit images. However, Photoshop Elements does offer Photomerge Exposure as a similar function.
                            • Photoshop Elements does not use the same range of Content-Aware functions. While the Spot Healing Brush includes the Content-Aware option in both applications, Photoshop Elements does not have Conent-Aware as an option in the Edit > Fill Layercommand (known simply as Edit > Fill in Photoshop). However, Photoshop Elements does use a Content-Aware Fill option when creating a Photomerge Panorama, this is not an option in Photoshop. Photoshop CS6 introduced the Content-Aware Extend and Move tools, which are not available in Photoshop Elements.
                            • Photoshop Elements has fewer vector based tools. The Pen family of tools are not available. The Shape tools do create a vector shape layer, but the vector points cannot be edited individually. There is no Paths panel.
                            • The licence from a boxed purchase of Photoshop Elements is multi-platform (as of version 9). This means you can install on either Windows or Macintosh or both without having to purchase a separate version. This is not true with Photoshop.
                            • Photoshop Elements does not have the Subtract or Divide blending modes that were introduced in Photoshop CS5.
                            • Photoshop and Photoshop Elements can both Transform selected pixels in the following ways: Scale, Rotate, Skew, Distort, and Perspective. Photoshop Elements does not have the Warp Transform option.
                            • The Photoshop Elements Color Picker does not include the following options available in Photoshop's Color Picker: the Not a web-safe color alert icon, the Add to Swatches and Color Libraries buttons, and the Lab and CMYK models.
                            • Photoshop Extended CS6 has the following panels that Photoshop Elements 11 does not: 3D*, Brush, Brush Presets, Channels, Character, Character Styles, Clone Source,Color, Layer Comps, Measurement Log*, Notes, Paragraph, Paragraph Styles, Paths, Properties, Styles, Timeline, and Tool Presets.
                            • Photoshop Elements does not support Extensions such as Mini Bridge and Kuler.

                             

                            *These features are only available in Photoshop Extended and are not available in Photoshop Standard. See the Comparison Guide above for more feature differences.

                             

                            [EDITORS NOTE: This is a work in progress, this list is not yet comprehensive]

                             

                            Message was edited by: station_two

                            • 11. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                              conroy Level 5

                              Kathwl wrote:

                               

                              An added note.  I wonder if when using the tools to create double exposures, the same tools can be used to separate double exposures?

                               

                               

                              Like converting scrambled eggs to whole uncooked eggs? I think that might be a little tricky.

                              • 12. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                                JJMack Most Valuable Participant

                                More then a little......you get a chicken didn't that come first.

                                • 13. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                                  Level 5

                                  conroy wrote:

                                   

                                  Kathwl wrote:

                                   

                                  An added note.  I wonder if when using the tools to create double exposures, the same tools can be used to separate double exposures?

                                   

                                   

                                  Like converting scrambled eggs to whole uncooked eggs? I think that might be a little tricky.

                                   

                                  conroy beat me to it. 

                                   

                                  I was considering using the analogy of separating a cooked ham+cheese+bellpeppers omelette into its individual ingredients. 

                                  • 14. Re: How do I fix a double exposure?
                                    Level 5

                                    Kathwl wrote:

                                     

                                    I checked the link you gave me, and no one is on that.  So no help there?…

                                     

                                    Due to recent forum changes, the initial view of the Elements forum shown when using that former link can be deceiving.  I'll try editing my previous post [not possible now].  Try this link instead:

                                     

                                    http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop_elements?view=discussions