6 Replies Latest reply on May 8, 2013 6:59 AM by rob day

    Jerky scrolling in CS, primitive & unacceptable?

    Niet beschikbaar

      Hi,

       

      I have a major gripe with CS6, and I am very curious if I am alone in this. It concerns the scrolling behaviour and redraw performance of InDesign and Illustrator in particular.

       

      I use most of the CS applications professionally every day, and have used them since I started work as a professional designer in the early ‘90’s. Many things have changed, for the better. But after 20 years of development, to be honest, I think the way screen redraw and scrolling in CS behaves, seems embarrassingly primitive.

      Frankly, I think it‘s not up to scratch and unacceptable for modern standards. Compared to the leaps and bounds developers of 3D design applications have made, I struggle to comprehend why a few simple 2D pages are so difficult to redraw. Case in point: the way the Pages palette in ID is updated. All thumbnails are painstakingly regenerated on every change, even when only one page is altererd. This takes close to half a second for every spread.

       

      I use a fairly decent MacBook pro, with quite a bit of RAM, which is quite sufficient for heavy professional use, especially compared with the processing power I started out with. It‘s far better equipped than an iPad for example, which hardly ever displays this kind of screen lag. But when navigating even simple documents, screen redraw and scrolling behaviour in all Adobe CS appications (apart from maybe PS) is jerky, lagging and very stubborn. It still feels the same as when I was working in my Quadra 6100. And this is not due to using the wrong settings, I know how to work the prefs.

       

      Now, this scrolling performance may seem trivial at first sight. But it is very important. The speed and fluidity of screen redraw is a crucial part of user interaction, especially when navigating larger documents. And it is essential for professional users, who intensively use the application every day. Jerky screen behaviour causes mental and eye fatigue and deminishes user satisfaction considerably.

       

      So, why is scrolling behaviour and screen redraw performance of these professional applications still so jerky. Will this be resolved in new CC version?

       

      I think the way users are enabled to fluidly navigate their documents should be a key priority in further development of all CS applications. No more jerky scrolling!

       

      What do you think?

        • 1. Re: Jerky scrolling in CS, primitive & unacceptable?
          Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

          Could be your mouse, or perhaps the settings for Live Screen Drawing. For that, try Delayed....

          • 2. Re: Jerky scrolling in CS, primitive & unacceptable?
            Niet beschikbaar Level 1

            Hi Peter, thank for your reply. No it‘s not that… These settings are ok.

             

            By the way, I use the Apple trackpad, not a mouse. This is a related problem, which makes scrolling and navigation more cumbersome, since CS recognises all manual input as a mouse scrolling wheel. Why is this not also an issue? I bet millions of mobile users would like to work using the excellent MacBook trackpad only and not have to lug a mouse along. Can we get out of the ‘80’s and finally use multi finger gestures, which are now so poorly implemented in CS?


            But my main point is that the screen redraw performance and scrolling behaviour is sub-optimal regardless of settings. Just compare it to screen redraw behaviour in other data-intensive applications outside CS. Or to the way your browser content behaves. Even data-intensive in-browser web-apps like google maps preform more fluid!

             

            Maybe compared to previous versions, performance is sometimes improved a little. But this is just tweaking. I‘m talking about real improvement. Just imagine being able to fluidly navigate your InDesign of Illustrator documents and not have it jerk irksomely across your beautiful 24" display like it‘s 1996. CS now seems to rely solely on regular processing and memory for screen-redraw, and not use the GPU in any way (or very poorly) for display tasks.

             

            That should not be acceptible.

            • 3. Re: Jerky scrolling in CS, primitive & unacceptable?
              Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

              I am not a Mac user, but I'd bet it is, in fact, an issue with ID and the track pad. You might want to play with the pad settings in your system prefs and see if makes a difference.

              • 4. Re: Jerky scrolling in CS, primitive & unacceptable?
                The Print Craftsman Level 1

                What do you have your "Display Performance" set at under the "View" Menu?

                 

                I normally keep mine set at "Typical Display" but if you have it set at "High Performance Display" you will definately encounter the problems you are describing.

                 

                FYI:  I use a mac mini (2009 model) at home with CS6 and while it is starting to show its age I happily navigate my documents at a pretty fluid rate.  If the solution I mention above is not the answer then I definately think you might have some sort of hardware / software conflict or something.

                 

                Randy

                • 5. Re: Jerky scrolling in CS, primitive & unacceptable?
                  rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  I have a trackpad that I occasionally use on my 5 year old MacPro and don't see any scrolling problems.

                  Case in point: the way the Pages palette in ID is updated. All thumbnails are painstakingly regenerated on every change, even when only one page is altererd. This takes close to half a second for every spread.

                   

                  Definately not seeing anything like that.

                  • 6. Re: Jerky scrolling in CS, primitive & unacceptable?
                    rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    I think the way screen redraw and scrolling in CS behaves, seems embarrassingly primitive.

                     

                    Does it happen if you start up in safe mode?