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    How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)

    amaisan

      I was previously using PE 8.  Under edit, titles, travel, I liked the "titles" world travel and topo.

      I upgraded to PE 11 and do not see those particular titles in PE 11.

      Is there a way to export them from PE 8, to PE 11 or download them from a web site?

        • 1. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
          A.T. Romano Level 7

          amaisan

           

          Please give the following a try to achieve your goal.

           

          1. Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1

          Local Disk C

          Program Files (x86)

          Adobe

          Adobe Premiere Elements 8.0

          Presets

          Templates

          Common

          Travel

          and in the Travel Folder, you would find folders named Topo and World Travel. Copy those Folders and paste those Folders to the computer desktop.

           

          2. Premiere Elements 11

          Local Disc C

          Program Files

          Adobe

          Adobe Premiere Elements 11

          Presets

          Templates

          Common

          in the Common Folder create a new folder named Amaisan Special Titles. In that Amaisan Special Titles Folder, place the Topo Folder and World Travel Folder that you have on the Desktop.

           

          You should find those Titles under the Titles & Text Tab at the bottom of the Premiere Elements 11 Expert view interface. They will be in a new catagory called Amaisan Special Titles. I did not put them in the Travel category. At this time, I did not attempt to get them into the Titles & Effects/Travel. That is another story for another time regarding the Online Folder in another hard drive location.

           

          Make sure that the Folder Options Show Hidden Files, Folders, and Drives is active so that you can see the path cited above.

           

          Please let us know if that worked for you.

           

          Thanks.

           

          ATR

          • 2. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
            amaisan Level 1

            A.T., Thanks for the response.  I did what you suggested and getting it "copied" into PE11 seemed to work.  When I open a "copied" PE8 title within PE11, it works except that the PICTURE in the frame is washed out with horizontal bars. 

            topo_framePE8.jpgtopo_framePE11.jpg

            Above are the same title (topo_frame) opened in PE8, and in PE11.

            WT_listPE8.jpgWT_listPE11.jpg

            Above is the title World Travel_list, as it shows up in PE8 and PE11.

            It's still washed out but the image of the picture seems to be in the background.

             

            Are the PE8 titles "compatible" with PE11?

             

            Thanks again,  Amaisan

             

             

             

             

             

             

            All of the titles in the two folders (Topo folder and World Travel folder) have the same Washed out problem.

            • 3. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
              A.T. Romano Level 7

              amaisan

               

              Sorry about those results. I have been spending the afternoon doing some detective work on this.

               

              I have Premiere Elements 4, 7, 8.0/8.0.1, 9.0/9.01, 10, and 11 on Windows 7 64 bit. In each version there has always been the opportunity to save a title as a prtl file via File Menu/Export/Title for use in another project. I always found it possible to import one of these saved .prtl files into another project in the same or other version (Get Media/Files and Folders) without problems.

               

              So, when I saw your results, I did this. Took going into the program files out of the equation.

              (a) In Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1, selected the world travel_list in Titles, imported it into the project, and then exported as a .prtl file to the computer desktop via File Menu/Export/Title.

              (b) Systematically, I imported that file from there into Premiere Elements 4, 7, 8.0/8.0.1, 9.0/9.0.1, 10, and 11. All but version 11, showed the 8.0/8.0.1 title as wanted.

              (c) In version 11, the title imports and behaves like a title template (it is editable) and responds to choices. But, the image is damaged as you have presented.

               

              The properties of the file does not seem to give an obvious reason why? I have not done an exhaustive study, but the only difference that I have run into in properties for what are all supposed to be .prtl files is in pixel aspect ratio. The limited number of files that I have compared suggest that Premiere Elements 11 .prtl files are classed as stills and given a pixel aspect ratio of 1.0 whereas the Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 .prtl are also classed as stills but yet given the pixel aspect ratio of 0.0901 which is typically the correction factor for NTSC DV Standard video. At this point, I am not sure if this means something or rather that I have not compared enough files.

               

              Very puzzling. I will see if there is some history on this that I have missed.

               

              Have you given thought to creating your own Title Templates in Premiere Elements 11 and exporting them as .prtl files for use in later projects as well as the current one in which they are being created?

               

              ATR

              • 4. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                amaisan Level 1

                ATR,

                1. Whenever I open a new title in PE11, I notice that it has to be "downloaded" from a server.  The next time I have to use this same title again, it seems to be cached within PE11 and pops up right away.  I don't remember ever having to "download" any titles when using PE8.  Could that have anything to do with this problem?  The fact that I'm trying to use titles that I'm porting from PE8 manually, and haven't been "updated" yet to be compatible with PE11?

                2.  I notice that "most" of the titles in PE8 are available in PE11.  That could mean that they work, and the ones that aren't included in PE11 had some problems?

                3.  I downloaded title, entertainment, contemporary music, "music_title" in PE11(below,left image). Then, I copied music_title from PE8 into PE11(below,rigght image).

                Music_titlePE11.jpg  music_titlePE8-PE11.jpg

                Strange:

                While using this "bad" copy music_title, the problem suddenly cleared up, and now, all of "contemporary music" that I broght over is okay (no washed out colors).

                I don't know what happened.  The selection of Contemporary music titles "blicked" and the washed out colors went away.

                The other washed out titles (world travel and topo) stayed washed out. 

                 

                My conclusion:   Of all the titles that were in PE8, the ones that worked consistently are used with PE11.  Then. some of ones that worked most of the time (like music_title) are also used in PE11.  The ones that are not compatible with PE11 are not used (like topo_title).  Could this be is what is happening?  Could this be a bug?

                • 5. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                  A.T. Romano Level 7

                  amaisan

                   

                  I am just starting my day. I think I have the answer which involved a by design rather than bug solution.

                   

                  I am going to test out my theory and will report back.

                   

                  At this moment, before executing the fix, the Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 title templates

                  Beach Resort

                  Countryside

                  Cruiseline

                  Desert Road

                  Outdoor Adventure

                  Road Trip

                  Space Travel

                  all appear to be transferring fine into Premiere Elements 11 via route outlines previous. It is just the Topo and World Travel that look strange after the transfer. The answer is so obvious. Let me see if obvious translates into reality.

                   

                  Pixel aspect ratio and frame size and bit depth have nothing to do with this at all.

                   

                  Coming soon.

                   

                  ATR

                  • 6. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                    A.T. Romano Level 7

                    amaisan

                     

                    I got it to work. Here is the story.

                     

                    Unlike the other title templates in the Travel Folder that work, the topo and world travel choices require assets from TWO locations. And, the other key is that Photoshop Elements 11 and Premiere Elements 11 do not appear to support .tga, the type used in version 8.0/8.0.1 for the backgrounds of topo and world travel title templates.

                     

                    1. Where ALL the assets for the Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 topo and world travel title templates can be found:


                    TEXT AND SUCH

                    Local Disk C

                    Program Files (x86)

                    Adobe

                    Premiere Elements 8.0

                    Presets

                    and in the Presets Folder are the Template Folder and the Texture Folder.  The Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 .prtl files involved are in the Template Folder. The files used for the backgrounds of topo and world travel are found in the Texture Folder which is in the Common Folder and exist there as .tga files. So after Presets Folder in this path to the .tga files...

                    Presets Folder then...

                    Texture Folder

                    Common Folder

                    and in the Common Folder are the .tga files needed for topo and world travel title templates.

                    As a reminder to both of us, after Presets Folder the path to the .prtl files for topo and world travel is

                    Presets Folder then...

                    Templates Folder

                    Common Folder

                    Travel Folder

                    and in the Travel Folder are the Topo and World Travel Folders.

                     

                     

                    the involved .tga files include:

                     

                    topo_bkgd.tga

                    topo_bkdg2.tga

                    topo_frame.tga

                    topo_lower3rd.tga

                    World Travel Frame_7.tga

                    World Travel Title Bkgd_7.tga

                     

                    Besides what I described previously, in order to get those title templates (topo and world travel) intact in Premiere Elements 11 for use in its workspace:

                     

                    (a) In the Presets Folder create a Texture Folder and place the .png versions of the .tga files in the Common Folder that you created in the Texture Folder (see below)

                    Remember Premiere Elements 11 does not have a Texture Folder that is why you are creating it and the Common Folder in it.

                     

                    Local Disk C

                    Program Files

                    Adobe

                    Premiere Elements 11

                    Presets

                    At this point, in the Presets Folder, you create a Texture Folder and create in the Texture Folder a Common Folder. In that Common Folder go the all the .png version of the .tga (see above list).

                     

                    I only placed two world travel files so far...it looks like this path-wise

                    PE11 .png backgrounds.JPG

                     

                    How To Convert .tga to .png

                     

                    I cannot convert .tga to .png in Photoshop Elements, but I can in Photoshop, CS2 at least. I went with .png since it seemed the most likely to work if it was going to work at all. The lesser of my choices was a .psd file. I need to go this route since simply renaming the file extension from .tga to .png did not work. And, I find that neither Photoshop Elements 11 nor Premiere Elements 11 support .tga.

                     

                    Please give this a try. As I said, looks like a by design rather than a bug.

                     

                    Thanks.

                     

                    ATR

                     

                    Post has been edited for clarification and correction purposes. These adjustments are reflected by the underlined text.

                    • 7. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                      A.T. Romano Level 7

                      amaisan

                       

                      Even though the following is not involved in what turned this into a can do rather than a can not do matter, I want to acknowledge and correct a typing error in my post #3 of this thread.

                       

                      I incorrectly typed 0.09091 as the typical correction factor for NTSC DV Standard. That should read 0.9091 instead of 0.09091.

                       

                      The post did not offer an Edit opportunity so that is why I am mentioning in this post.

                       

                      ATR

                      • 8. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                        amaisan Level 1

                        ATR,

                        First, Thank you for your time.

                         

                        Per your directions, I went to Program Files, Adobe, Premiere Elements 11, Presets.

                        Your instructions at part (a) says "create a Template folder" but in the detailed directions you said "create a Texture folder".

                        Being that there was already a "Templates" folder, I assumed that you meant "create a Texture folder".

                         

                        If I went wrong here, please let me know and I will re-do it,,,, or rename it.

                         

                        I created a Texture folder and in it a Common folder.

                        Into the Common folder, I copied the Topo and World Travel (5 - .tga files) from PE8.

                        I used Photoshop CS2 and "opened" and tried to do a "saved as" files to .PNG files.

                        For some reason, it wouldn't work.

                         

                        I needed to copy the files into a separate folder on my desktop and do the .tga to .png conversion.

                        I copied the 5 .png files back to the ..../texture/common folder.

                         

                        I then opened PE11 and brought up Titles & Text.

                        In Amaisan Special Titles, the Topo and World Travel titles still show as being washed out.

                        I tried inserting them into the Video1 track and they were still washed out.

                         

                        I shutdown and rebooted, brought up PE11, and same washed out problem.

                        Did I miss a step?

                        Do I need to recopy the original PE8 title files over again?

                        Did .png work for you?

                        Did .psd work?

                         

                        Amaisan

                        • 9. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                          A.T. Romano Level 7

                          amaisan

                           

                          I will review all and get back to you.

                           

                          This all worked for me, so let me see if I goofed in the write up or you are missing a step in what I have written or if I did not write the instructions clear enough. Hopefully before the end of the day we will get the wrinkles worked out of this.

                           

                          Thanks.

                           

                          ATR

                          • 10. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                            A.T. Romano Level 7

                            amaisan

                             

                            Please review my clarified and corrected post #6. I think that I have caught all the typing errors. This does work as written for the .tga files as .png files.

                             

                            I used Photoshop Elements CS2 for the conversion of .tga to .png but all the conversion were done before introducing these files into the directory structure. In Photoshop not Image Ready, I did a File Menu/Save As/PNG (*.PNG).

                             

                            In my Premiere Elements 11 Windows, under the Titles and Text tab at the bottom of the interface looks like this for the world travel .png that I have processed so far.

                             

                            world travel in PE11 Titles.JPG

                            I have not entered all the topo and world travel title templates assets into Premiere Elements 11 at this point.

                             

                            Please recheck my instructions to make sure there are no more typing other errors. I double checked but... These are unchartered waters so I hope that there will be no surprises moving forward, just smooth working.

                             

                            Thanks for asking for the clarification.

                             

                            ATR

                            • 11. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                              amaisan Level 1

                              ATR,

                              In the event that "something" may have messed up "something", I started all over again.

                               

                              In the PE11 file structure, I went to Program Files, Adobe, Premiere Elements 11, Presets, Templates, Common, and deleted the Amaisan Special Titles folder(and the contents), then remade the folder (Amaisan Special Titles).

                              I went to Program Files, Adobe, Premiere Elements 11, Presets, Texture and deleted everything in Texture.

                               

                              From Program Files (x86), Adobe, Premiere Elements 8.0, Presets, Templates, Common, Travel, I copied the 2 Topo and World Travel folders and pasted them into new Amaisan Special Titles folder in the PE11 file stucture.

                              From Program Files (x86), Adobe, Premiere Elements 8.0, Presets, Textures, Common, I copied the 5 .tga applicable files into a folder (PE11work) on my desktop.

                               

                              I used Photoshop CS2 (not Photoshop Elements CS2) and opened each of the files in the PE11work folder and saved them .PNG files.

                              workPE11.jpg

                              I then copied these 5 .PNG files from PE11work to Program Files, Adobe, Premiere Elements 11, Presets, Texture.

                              I then started up PE11 and clicked on Titles & Text and chose Amaisan Special Effects.  Same problem.

                              Special Titles.jpg

                               

                              Question: When I did the "save as" during the conversion from .tga to .png, Photoshop CS2 asked about "PNG OPTIONS" for interlace.  I took the default of "none" rather then choosing "interlaced".  Would this matter?

                              • 12. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                A.T. Romano Level 7

                                amaisan

                                 

                                None is fine for the png option.

                                 

                                I am hoping the following is the problem. In your last post you wrote:

                                I then copied these 5 .PNG files from PE11work to Program Files, Adobe, Premiere Elements 11, Presets, Texture.

                                 

                                You place the .png files in the Common Folder which is in the Texture Folder which is in the Presets Folder. It sounds like you may have left out the Common Folder here. Please double check that point. Please go back to post #6 and click on the screenshot showing the world travel .png files in the Common Folder. Look at the path at the top of the screenshot.

                                 

                                Local Disc C

                                Program Files

                                Adobe

                                Adobe Premiere Elements 11

                                Presets

                                Texture

                                Common

                                and in that Common Folder go the .png files for these two title templates.

                                 

                                Hoping that was what is holding back success.

                                 

                                We will be watching for your results.

                                 

                                Thanks.

                                 

                                ATR

                                • 13. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                  amaisan Level 1

                                  ATR,

                                   

                                  Thanks for pointing that out. 

                                  Trying to be descriptive, I did a typo, and left out Common.  My bad.

                                   

                                  The file structure is correct, and the .PNG files were put in Program Files, Adobe, Premiere Elements 11, Presets, Texture, Common and are still there.

                                   

                                  I opened PE8 and did a help, about PE and it shows, "version 8.0(M178-9/8/2009)[R]"

                                  Could it have something to do with me not being at 8.01?

                                  • 14. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                    A.T. Romano Level 7

                                    amaisan

                                     

                                    I found it almost impossible to run Premiere Elements 8.0 without installing the 8.0.1 Update. The tricky part about installing that 8.0.1 Update is that you will not see any 8.0.1 anywhere after the installation. You will need to depend on:

                                    a. A successful update message that you get when the update is installed successfully.

                                    b. The automatic Background Rendering option in preferences now found turned off

                                    c. There one new file someone in the program files section

                                    Did Help Menu/Updates have any updates to be installed.

                                    You could try to install the 8.0.1 Update and see if you get a message such as already installed.

                                    ]http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4653

                                     

                                    With regard to these Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 title templates topo and world travel, I have only done the two world travel files cited. I will try some of the topo ones to see if that succeeds for me.

                                     

                                    More later.

                                     

                                    Just had an idea. When you made copy of your original .tga files was there the word "copy" inserted automatically in the file name? If so, remove it and make sure the file name is the same for Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 and 11 except for the file extension...tga vs .png. That might be it.

                                     

                                    ATR

                                    • 15. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                      A.T. Romano Level 7

                                      amaissn

                                       

                                      Interesting experience with the topo .png files just now that might be a tip how to get those into Premiere Elements 11 that are "resisting".

                                       

                                      I got all the topo .png to appear nicely within Premiere Elements 11 Titles & Text EXCEPT topo_frame.png. I tried everything, retracing my steps.

                                       

                                      What I did to get it to finally appear was this.

                                       

                                      Close out of Premiere Elements 11.

                                      Go the location of the topo_frame.png in its Premiere Elements 11 save location and then clear the whole file name and retype topo_frame.png.

                                      When I reopened Premiere Elements 11, there was the top_frame.png displaying as wanted.

                                       

                                      If nothing else is working, please give that a try.

                                       

                                      Thanks.

                                       

                                      ATR

                                      • 16. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                        amaisan Level 1

                                        ATR,

                                         

                                        I opened PE8 and did a help, update.  It came back, "There are no available updates at this time."  I'm assuming that I'm already at 8.01.

                                        I checked background rendering in preferences and it was checked on.

                                        I went to Program Files, Adobe, Premiere Elements 11, Presets, Texture, Common and on each of the files, I cleared the name and reentered it.  ie topo_frame, topo_bkgd, etc.  I assumed that the .png suffix was going to be there by default.  If I click properties on the files, they are all .png files.

                                        I opened PE11 and the titles are still washed out.

                                         

                                        I went to Program Files, Adobe, Premiere Elements 11, Presets, Texture, Common and on each of the files, I cleared the name and reentered it.  ie topo_frame.png, topo_bkgd.png, etc.

                                        I opened PE11 and the titles are still washed out.

                                         

                                        In your last suggestion above, were you really renameing the files like,,, topo_frame,,,, topo_frame.png?  Or just topo_frame(because it already is a ".png" file)?

                                         

                                        For some reason, in PE11 (on my system) it seems like the World Travel and Topo titles aren't associating with the "texture" folder content.  How and when does this "association take place?

                                         

                                        Before I forget, on my system, I'm running and i5-3470 processor with Windows 7, 64 bit.

                                        • 17. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                          A.T. Romano Level 7

                                          amaisan

                                           

                                          Please make sure  that you actually type and see the whole file name of the topo and world travel title template including the file extension .png. Do not take it for granted. Make sure that you are no hidding any file extension by way of a Folders Options check mark.

                                           

                                          Again, you want the whole file name:

                                           

                                          It should look exactly like this:

                                           

                                          PE11.JPG

                                          and when you open Premiere Elements 11 Windows, you should be seeing the following, only with the folder having your name instead of ATR Specials:

                                           

                                          PE11 Titles & Text.JPG

                                          Right now I hoping that the taken for granted file extension was the detour. By the way, did I mention that I tried for a .tga to .psd change and that did not work for this.

                                           

                                          We will be watching for your results.

                                           

                                          Thanks.

                                           

                                          ATR

                                          • 18. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                            amaisan Level 1

                                            ATR,

                                             

                                            Here's what I've got on my system.

                                            pngs.jpg

                                            The above is my PE11, /Texture/Common contents

                                             

                                            topo.jpg

                                            The above is my PE11 /Templates/Commom/Amaisan Special Titles/Topo contents.

                                             

                                            wt.jpg

                                            The above is my PE11 /Templates/Commom/Amaisan Special Titles/World Travel contents.

                                             

                                            titles.jpg

                                            The above is my PE11 Titles & Text, Amaisan Special Titles contents.

                                             

                                            "So close and yet so far"

                                             

                                            Amaisan

                                            • 19. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                              A.T. Romano Level 7

                                              [Reply 19 has been Deleted at the instruction of ATR. Please see Reply #27 for the revised content from this Reply.]

                                               

                                              Message was edited by: Bill Hunt at direction of ATR

                                              • 20. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                amaisan Level 1

                                                ATR,

                                                Good morning.  Sorry but I'm (Hawaii) a few hours behind you.

                                                 

                                                I read your last entry and checked  the PE11 /Templates/Commom/Amaisan Special Titles/Topo contents.

                                                I then deleted the names and reentered them with a suffix of .prtl.

                                                 

                                                 

                                                topo2.jpg

                                                Above is a snapshop of the folder.  I repeated that with the World Travel folder too.

                                                I rebooted the system, brought up PE11 and displayed the Amaisan Special Titles.  Same washed out problem.

                                                I do notice that looking at the image above, under type, it says "Adobe Primere Title".

                                                I see that your image says "PRTL file".

                                                I went back to my PE8 tree and looked at the files in the Topo and World Travel folders, and they all have " Adobe Premiere Title".

                                                I know tthat if I do a "properties on these files it shows the type as "Adobe Premiere Title (.prtl)".

                                                Does your PE8 and PE11  files show as PRTL file.

                                                That's the only difference that I can see.

                                                 

                                                I'm going on to the second part of your last message.

                                                I'll let you know.

                                                 

                                                amaisan

                                                • 21. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                  A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                  amaisan

                                                   

                                                  In the Presets Folder/Templates Folder...., all the involved .prtl files here are shown with File as PRTL File (Properties for each show Read Only).

                                                  This goes for Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 and Premiere Elements 11 on Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit.

                                                   

                                                  You may have said already, but please remind me what computer operating system you are using to run Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 and Premiere Elements 11. Are Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 and Premiere Elements 11 on this same computer when you are going between versions with these files?

                                                   

                                                  Looking forward to further developments.

                                                   

                                                  Thanks.

                                                   

                                                  ATR

                                                  • 22. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                    amaisan Level 1

                                                    ATR,

                                                     

                                                    I'm on the second part of your intructions.

                                                     

                                                    1. Move all the .png files involved here to the computer desktop. Just the files. No folder.

                                                    DONE

                                                    2. Delete the "Amaisan Special Titles" Folder from ....Presets - Texture - Common - "Amaisan Special Titles" - topo and world travel route.

                                                    The Amaisan Special Titles folder is actually in the ... Presets - Templates - Common.  I deleted it (and the contents).   DONE

                                                    3. Close Premiere Elements 11. Restart the computer.

                                                    Premiere Elements wasn't running at this time, but if it was, it's a good idea.  Restart the computer.  DONE

                                                    4. Go to ....Presets - Texture - Common - and create a new folder in the Common Folder. Give this new folder a name such as "More Title Templates".

                                                    Went to .....Presets - Texture (not Templates)- Common and created a "ATT Special" folder.  DONE

                                                    5. Go to the computer desktop and retype the entire file name for each of the title templates, being sure that you see displayed the .png file extension at all times. We are not changing the file name in anyway, just retyping the file name.

                                                    DONE

                                                    6. Then move all those .png files into the "More Title Templates" Folder.

                                                    All of the files were moved to tthe new ATT Special folder.  DONE

                                                    7. Bottom line:

                                                    We have removed and replaced the Amaisan Special Titles Folder and its .png files with

                                                    with a folder named More Title Templates ATT Special to which we placed the computer desktop.png files whose complete file names were retyped.

                                                    DONE

                                                    Please double check the instructions to make sure I have everything going in the correct direction. I have checked, but just to be sure.  DONE

                                                     

                                                    The only thing left is the Topo and World Travel folders with the templates (contents).

                                                    That was all deleted when I deleted Amaisan Special Titles in step 2.

                                                    Do you want me to re-copy them from PE8?

                                                    Where should I put them (in PE11)?

                                                    • 23. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                      amaisan Level 1

                                                      I was just pointing out the fact that when I display the files on my machine. they show a type of "Adobe Premiere Title" and yours show "PRTL file".  A little different.

                                                      I am running an i5-3470 processor with Windows 7 SP1 (64 bit) and yes PE8 and PE11 are both on this same system.

                                                      • 24. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                        A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                        amaisan

                                                         

                                                        Hope all is going well.

                                                         

                                                        You wrote:

                                                        The only thing left is the Topo and World Travel folders with the templates (contents).

                                                        That was all deleted when I deleted Amaisan Special Titles in step 2.

                                                        Do you want me to re-copy them from PE8?

                                                        Where should I put them (in PE11)?

                                                         

                                                        Please refer to post #19 where all those details are directed at PE11. Right now, forget about PE8.0/8.0.1, we have PE8.0/8.0.1 contributions already represented by those .png files on the desktop as per post #19. At this time, I see no need to go back to PE8.0/8.0.1 to start from the beginning to get the .tga files that are converted to .png. We will reconsider all, if, after going through the details of post #19, those topo and world travel title template decide to continue resisting.

                                                         

                                                        Glad we are both working on Windows 7 SP1 64bit, should take some of the variable out of the equation. Is that Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit?

                                                         

                                                        Looking forward to good news.

                                                         

                                                        Thanks.

                                                         

                                                        ATR

                                                        • 25. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                          amaisan Level 1

                                                          ATR,

                                                           

                                                          I think that you're mis-reading my question.

                                                          I did follow post 19, exactly.  It seems like you had a new plan or idea, so I was going to do exactly what you said.

                                                           

                                                          When I did step 2, I deleted Amaisan Special Titles, as you directed.  That was where the Topo folder and World Travel folder were.

                                                          After I finished step 7, there had still been no mention of restoring or reloading the two folders (Topo and World Travel).

                                                          That was why I was asking.

                                                          Please go back to post 19 and review what you advised me to do.

                                                          Should there have been a step 8?

                                                           

                                                          No I don't have Windows 7 Professional.  I'm using Home Premium.

                                                           

                                                          Amaisan

                                                          • 26. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                            A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                            Amaisan

                                                             

                                                            Recap Time

                                                             

                                                            Please stop until I get the plan regrouped. And, the plan re-presented and confirmed on both sides.

                                                             

                                                            The whole idea was to isolate .prtl and .png files for safe keeping, putting the .prtl and .png files on the computer desktop for temporary storage AND where possible to replace the folders involved with new folders with new names where applicable (a refreshing process of sorts). That was the plan. I got the idea when I found that retyping the file name of world travel_frame title template got that title template to work.

                                                             

                                                            So in Premiere Elements 11

                                                            Program Files Folder

                                                            Adobe Folder

                                                            Premiere Elements 11 Folder

                                                            Presets Folder Folder - for the plan to work, we need a Templates Folder and a Texture Folder in the Presets Folder. There is no Texture Folder there in Premiere Elements 11 so we needed to create one and create a Common Folder to go in this Texture Folder.

                                                             

                                                            The structure for inside the Template Folder is:

                                                            Common Folder

                                                            Amaison Special Titles Folder

                                                            Topo and World Travel Folders inside the Amaison Special Titles Folder

                                                            and in each of the Topo and World Travel Folders are the .prtl files.

                                                             

                                                            The structure for inside the Texture Folder is:

                                                            Common Folder

                                                            and inside the Common Folder are the .png files for Topo and World Travel.

                                                             

                                                            First order of business was to get the .prtl and .png from their present folder locations and to preserve existing .prtl files and .png files on the computer desktop, so they were to be put on the desktop for retyping of the complete file name of each.

                                                             

                                                            Template

                                                            The present Amaison Special Titles Folder was to be removed and recreated in its location, using a different folder name such as "More Title Templates".

                                                            Other Folders could just be "refreshed" by deletion of the empty folders and replacement with a newly made folder with the same name as before by just retyped.

                                                             

                                                            Texture

                                                            The "refreshed" idea was also to be applied to Texture Folder and its Common Folder. No name changed, just retyped present name.

                                                             

                                                            When all that was done, then the .prtl and .png files (with their retyped file names) were to be transferred from the desktop to their designated locations in the Templates and Texture Folders structures respectively.

                                                             

                                                            In view of my recap, please have it replace anything written in post #19 with the content of this current post. I think that approach is less likely to be prone to errors. I asked about your computer operating system to see if there was a reason for any difference in file type nomenclature that we are seeing in comparing results. If I have the opportunity to re-enter post #19, I will clarify and correct or delete where applicable. If not, I will not the discrepancies in another post after we have worked this issue to a successful conclusion.

                                                             

                                                            Thanks.

                                                             

                                                            ATR

                                                            • 27. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                              A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                              Amaisan

                                                               

                                                              The following is a rewritten version of post #19. This rewritten #19 plus post #26 should be in agreement with the plan.

                                                               

                                                              Based on my experience with retyping the whole name of one of those world travel .png files to get it to appear correctly, let us try a more drastic measure. Keep in mind that at this point we are dealing with the Premiere Elements 11 side of things.

                                                               

                                                              In that screenshot of yours in a recent post, I want to see .prtl file extension displaying for those .prtl files in the topo Folder in the route:

                                                              ...Presets Folder/Templates Folder/Common Folder/Amaisan Special Titles Folder/topo Folder with its .prtl files.

                                                              ...Same comment for ...Presets Folder/Templates Folder/Common Folder/Amaisan Special Titles Folder/world travel Folder with it .prtl files.

                                                               

                                                              Screenshot in original #19 showing all of my .file names with .prtl file extension is omitted in this re-write.

                                                               

                                                              If the above step does not get things working, then let us explore the following based on my encounter with the world travel _frame .png which went from not working to working when all I did was retype the whole file name. But your present situation calls for something more drastic. So let us try the following:

                                                               

                                                              1, Referring to the path...

                                                              Presets Folder/Texture Folder/Common Folder with its .png files (for topo and world travel), move all the .png files there to the computer desktop. Just the files. No Folders.

                                                               

                                                              2. On the .png side of things, delete the Texture Folder and its Common Folder from the Presets Folder.

                                                              (Since in Step 1 you moved all the .png files to the desktop for safe keeping, these should be empty Folders that you are deleting in this Step 2.

                                                               

                                                              3. Referring to the path...

                                                              Presets Folder/Templates Folder/Common Folder/Amaisan Special Titles Folder/topo and world travel Folders with their .prtl files, move all the .prtl files there to the computer desktop. Just the files. No Folders.

                                                               

                                                              4. On the .prtl side of things, delete the Amaisan Special Titles Folder and its topo Folder and its world travel Folder  in the path cited in Step 3.

                                                              (Since in Step 3 you moved all the .prtl files to the desktop for safe keeping, these should be empty Folders that you are deleting in this Step 4.

                                                               

                                                              ACTIONS

                                                               

                                                              1. Retype the file names of all the .png and .prtl files on the desktop, making sure to include the file extension.

                                                               

                                                              2. Where the original "Amaisan Special Titles Folder" was, create a new Folder named something like "More Title Templates". And in that "More Title Templates" Folder, create a topo Folder and a world travel Folder. Move accordingly the .prtl files from the desktop into these newly created topo Folder and world travel Folder.

                                                               

                                                              3. In the Presets Folder, create a new Texture Folder and in it a new Common Folder. Move the .png files for both topo and world travel into that Common Folder.

                                                               

                                                              4. Restart the computer.

                                                               

                                                              I regret the confusion that may have occurred here.

                                                               

                                                              Hoping for the good news of your success. Everything here in this regard is working.

                                                               

                                                              Thanks.

                                                               

                                                              ATR

                                                               

                                                              Add On..Again please review and double check. Please ask before continuing if you have any questions.

                                                              • 28. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                amaisan Level 1

                                                                ATR,

                                                                You have the patience of a saint.

                                                                 

                                                                Here's what I did today. 

                                                                Read your directions.

                                                                Follow it, step by step.

                                                                Step 1... done

                                                                Step 2... done

                                                                Step 3... done

                                                                Step 4... done

                                                                Actions:

                                                                Step 1... done

                                                                png.jpg

                                                                prtl.jpg

                                                                Step 2... done

                                                                t.jpg

                                                                wt.jpg

                                                                Step 3... done

                                                                PE11png.jpg

                                                                Step 4... done

                                                                titles.jpg

                                                                 

                                                                tired.jpgWhat am I missing?

                                                                 

                                                                 

                                                                AT, do you have any peers that have PE8 and PE11 on a machine that could try to recreate your results?

                                                                • 29. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                  A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                                  amaisan

                                                                   

                                                                  Your last post was distressing in its outcome, but I am not about to give up. It works. We just have to get it to work for more than just me.

                                                                   

                                                                  I do not have anyone that I could ask to try this. Anyone reading this thread who has Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 and 11 installed on a Windows computer might be asked via this thread to try this.

                                                                   

                                                                  BUT, I have Windows 8 64 bit on a Lenovo laptop which already has Premiere Elements 11 and 10 installed on it.

                                                                   

                                                                  What do you think of the idea of me installing Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 on Windows 8 64 bit and trying to repeat the success that I achieved with those programs installed on Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit?

                                                                   

                                                                  ATR

                                                                  • 30. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                    amaisan Level 1

                                                                    ATR,

                                                                     

                                                                    Frankly, I don't thing that the OS (W7 verses W8)should make a difference.  If it does, that opens up another discussion.

                                                                    In the meanwhile, I'll look for some way to do some additional testing too.

                                                                     

                                                                    Thanks,

                                                                    amaisan

                                                                    • 31. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                      A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                                      amaisan

                                                                       

                                                                      Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 (with content) is now installed on Windows 8 64 bit. Later tonight, if detours do not block my path, we will give this task a try in its new computer environment.

                                                                       

                                                                      This should be interesting. Wasn't it the case that your .prtl files were shown with Type = Adobe Premiere Title and mine were Type = PRTL? I have to go back and check on that. But, guess what? In Windows 8, the Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 .prtl have Type = Adobe Premiere Title. Now let us see if that means anything.

                                                                       

                                                                      Coming soon.

                                                                       

                                                                      ATR

                                                                      • 32. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                        amaisan Level 1

                                                                        ATR,

                                                                         

                                                                        I have a backup (clone) disk from over 3 months ago. It has PE8 installed and this clone was made before I received my new PE11. 

                                                                        I fired it up on my system, installed PE11, copied the PE8 .prtl files for topo and world travel onto the desktop, copied the PE8 .tga files for topo and world travel onto the desktop, used photoshop cs2 to convert the .tga files to .png files, deleted the names for these files and renamed them with the respective .prtl and .png file suffixs.

                                                                        I created PE11...\Presets\Templates\Common\ More Titles\Topo and World Travel folders and loaded them with the .prtl files from the desktop.

                                                                        I created PE11... \Presets\Texture\Common folder and loaded them with the .png files from the desktop.

                                                                        Rebooted the system and brought up PE11.

                                                                        Same "washed out" problem.

                                                                         

                                                                        Does your Windows 8 laptop work?

                                                                         

                                                                        amaisan

                                                                        • 33. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                          A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                                          amaisan

                                                                           

                                                                          Just starting my day. I did not get to the Windows 8 64 bit test yet. Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 is now installed along with Premiere Elements 10 and 11 on the laptop. I am hoping to get to that sometime today.

                                                                           

                                                                          Looking forward to the results.

                                                                           

                                                                          ATR

                                                                          • 34. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                            A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                                            amaisan

                                                                             

                                                                            Good news or Bad news depending on the perspective.

                                                                             

                                                                            I could NOT get the Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 Title Templates named topo and world travel to work in Premiere Elements 11 on Windows 8 64 bit....try as I did.

                                                                             

                                                                            The adventure continues however.

                                                                             

                                                                            Keep in mind that I have been troubled by the difference in File Type for the .prtl file between us...me with .PRTL (where this task works great) and you with Adobe Premiere Title (where task does not work). When I went through the drill in Windows 8 64 bit, the .prtl File Type was displayed a Adobe Premiere Title not PRTL. Can I make a correlation between .PRTL associated with "its works" with Adobe Premiere Title associated with "it does not work"????

                                                                             

                                                                            Then I got the bright idea of importing a world travel .png and its corresponding .prtl file into Premiere Elements 11 with Add Media/Project Assets and dragging the .prtl to Video 2 and the .png to Video 1 and contemplating an export (File Menu/Export/Title was out since the exported title needs to created in the Titler as far as I have ever seen). But, what I did get out of this was that the .png displays here well; it is the .prtl that brings that garbage into the picture...taking my thoughts back to .PRTL vs Adobe Premiere Title File Type.

                                                                             

                                                                            Another bright idea went nowhere. It involved opening the Titler, using Text Menu/Add Image to add .png and corresponding .prtl file to the opened then black empty title in the Titler. The .png looked great. But, nothing displayed for is corresponding .prtl file (hidden or not).

                                                                             

                                                                            Now I am envisioning something on Windows 7 64 bit, but not Windows 8 64 bit, that is enhancing the task to work there. So, here is my question for you to advance that idea or blow it away...on what computer was the Photoshop CS2 that you used to convert the .tga files to .png...the same computer as Premiere Elements 8.0/8.0.1 and Premiere Elements 11 and all the .tga to .png files and .prtl files or another?

                                                                             

                                                                            Looking forward to your reply.

                                                                             

                                                                            Thanks.

                                                                             

                                                                            ATR

                                                                            • 35. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                              amaisan Level 1

                                                                              ATR    ,

                                                                               

                                                                              Yes, everything is on one computer, the PE8, PE11 and the Photoshop CS2.

                                                                               

                                                                              amaisan

                                                                              • 36. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                                A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                                                amaisan

                                                                                 

                                                                                Well, your post #35 just blew away one theory as to cause of the "works" versus "does not work".

                                                                                 

                                                                                Do you have any other Adobe products on your computer?

                                                                                 

                                                                                I am heading back to Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit to see if I can determine what in it makes the task work for me there and not on my Windows 8 64 bit and for you.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Thanks again for the follow up.

                                                                                 

                                                                                ATR

                                                                                • 37. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                                  amaisan Level 1

                                                                                  ATR,

                                                                                   

                                                                                  The only other Adobe product that I have is Adobe Reader, and I have Adobe Flash.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Some thoughts:

                                                                                  In post #3, you say that you have Premiere Elements 4, 7, 8.0/8.0.1, 9.0/9.01, 10, and 11 loaded on your machine.

                                                                                  At what version did they stop including Topo and World Travel?

                                                                                   

                                                                                  1. Topo and World Travel (and the rest of the titles) are resident on my PE8,,, and it looks like in PE11, all of the useable titles are not resident, but "downloaded".

                                                                                  2. Topo and World Travel are not included amoungst the "download-able" titles.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Could it be that when it came time to choose which titles would be made downloadable in PE11, the ones that were incompatible were not included?

                                                                                  Check post #4 of this problem.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Just a thought,

                                                                                  amaisan

                                                                                  • 38. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                                    A.T. Romano Level 7

                                                                                    amaisan

                                                                                     

                                                                                    The tests go on.

                                                                                     

                                                                                    The topo and world travel title templates were included for Premiere Elements 9.0/9.0.1 and earlier. They are gone in Premiere Elements 10 and 11. Premiere Elements 10 was the first version to offer 64 bit application if run on Windows 7 64 bit. Version 10 is also a 64 bit application when run on Windows 8 64 bit. In the case of Premiere Elements 11, it is 64 bit application when run on Windows 7 64 bit, Windows 8 64 bit, or Mac 64 bit.

                                                                                     

                                                                                    As for downloaded species, I need to think about that. The system comes with one or two completed content items and also with incomplete folders which will automatically receive the download with content to complete the folders to make a item available and/or functional after you download from within the program. In the case of the DVD Template, after download you can see the important .psd file plus that has been added to a particular folder. What for a Title Template?

                                                                                     

                                                                                    I am attracted to this PRTL versus Adobe Premiere Title angle. It is getting late here so I think that I will think about this some more in the light of day. Every so often I take a look at those beautiful topo and world travel Title Templates available in my Windows 7 64 bit Premiere Elements 11 Titles & Text and look at them in awe.

                                                                                     

                                                                                    ATR

                                                                                    • 39. Re: How can I get PE8 titles into PE11 (ie. topo_title)
                                                                                      amaisan Level 1

                                                                                      ATR,

                                                                                       

                                                                                      I might be wrong ( I always am) but I don't think that the different OS should have any affect on this problem.  If the software works, that means that it's installed properly and it's okay,,,, for the most part.

                                                                                      I agree that the "PRTL FILE" type verses "Adobe Premiere Elements Title" type does raise a question or two.

                                                                                      And the fact that it shows up different on your machine (PRTL file) ,,,, and it works.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      I also agree that Topo and World Travel are super titles and I'd be curious to know why they weren't included in PE10 and  11.

                                                                                      I was recently in Morocco and planned to make a video.  None of the other travel titles seem to contain the correct ambionce.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      amaisan

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