12 Replies Latest reply: May 23, 2013 10:29 AM by Dave LaRonde RSS

    need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6

    sean3Dmonkey

      I have an old project that is using an effect called "Ice Fe Light Sweep."  I need "Ice Fe Light Sweep" for AE CS6.  I did a search for "Ice Fe Light Sweep" for AE CS6 but nothing came up.  I would like to find the effect so I know what the original arist did with the effect.  I don't want to have to recreate and reinterpret the effect without first knowinghow the effect animated and what the effect looked like in the project.

       

       

       

      May I ask for some suggestions.

       

      Sean

        • 1. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
          Todd_Kopriva Adobe Employee

          I'm not familiar with an effect with that name. How old is the project?

          • 2. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
            Dave LaRonde Community Member

            I have an old project that is using an effect called "Ice Fe Light Sweep."  I need "Ice Fe Light Sweep" for AE CS6.  I did a search for "Ice Fe Light Sweep" for AE CS6 but nothing came up.

             

             

            ...yeah, and it won't, either!   That project file is as old as the hills!  

             

            It hails from the days when AE was on Macs only, and computers were so stinkin' slow they used accelerator boards for certain effects in AE.  In your case the hardware was called an ICE board, and they came with their own set of effects for AE that duplicated the ones already in AE, but which utilized the board.  The "FE" designation was for "Final Effects".  I haven't heard about Final Effects since ICE boards went the way of the Dodo; I'm pretty sure they came bundled with the ICE board.

             

            ICE boards and ICE'd effects in AE were a lousy idea:  you use the ICE effects, and you want to work on a machine with no board?  Sorry, you get no effects.  And you couldn't get the full set of effects in AE to run on an ICE board in the first place. 

             

            I mean, this project file is OLD: from the mid 1990's.  Think AE version 3.1.  On a Powermac with 512 whole megabytes of RAM.  A single processor (no cores) screaming away at 256 mHz.  Running Mac OS 8.6.   Those numbers are indeed correct.

             

            Even if you had all the necessary versions of the application, the operating systems and the computers to go from AE 3.1 to AE 11, ICE boards aren't compatible with currently-available hardware.  Heck, they probably aren't compatible with any thing but Powermacs.  I doubt very much that you will EVER be able to open that project file.  You may not want to recreate and reinterpret the effect,  but my crystal ball says you're going to have to, like it or not.

             

            In the Current version of AE, CC Light Sweep ought to do the trick: it works virtually identically to the FE Light Sweep.  I think it will be somewhat faster, too.

            • 3. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
              Mylenium MVP

              What Dave said - it's the ICE board accelerated version of Final Effects Complete. CC Light Sweep should do just fine.

               

              Mylenium

              • 4. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
                sean3Dmonkey Community Member

                Thanks Dave  LaRonde.  I'll try and find a rendered movie to use as a template and recreate the effect.

                 

                Sean

                • 5. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
                  Dave LaRonde Community Member

                  I'll try and find a rendered movie to use as a template and recreate the effect.

                   

                   

                  Well, at least you won't have to think in terms of lights, 3D layers, expressions, parenting and text layers.  They didn't exist when that project file was created.  Now, some of the newer features may help, which will be good for you.

                  • 6. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
                    sean3Dmonkey Community Member

                    You are a fountain of knowledge, Dave.  I'll try out the CC Light Sweep you recommended.

                     

                    Sean

                    • 7. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
                      sean3Dmonkey Community Member

                      Dave,  I got the CC light Sweep to scroll across the text.  It was easy like you anticipated.

                       

                      I need to make a light sweep go across a faceted diamond.  Is there a way to use masks in AE CS6 on the light sweep so it only affects certain faceted shapes on the diamond?

                       

                      Sean

                      • 8. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
                        Dave LaRonde Community Member

                        I see your handle includes the term, "3D".  For more realism, do it in a 3D application, not AE.

                        • 9. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
                          sean3Dmonkey Community Member

                          This needs to be done in AE.  It is not a realistic Diamond; it is more of a comic book type diamond.  Are you saying there is no way to use masks with CC Light Sweep? I'll see what I can do with CC light sweep.

                           

                          Sean

                          • 10. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
                            Dave LaRonde Community Member

                            In AE alone, huh?  Sort of a comic book illustration, huh?  No sweat. 

                             

                            Well, there'll be SOME sweat, but not too much,  There will be a bunch of layers.  We'll assume this diamond animation lives in a nested comp, and you'll put it in the main comp for rendering.

                            I'll describe how I'd do this for ONE facet, and you can take it from there.  First, make put the diamond layer on the very bottom layer:

                             

                            • Duplicate the diamond layer, and on the upper one, mask around the desired facet very precisely.
                            • Add a black solid BELOW  the masked facet layer, add the Light Sweep efffect to the solid, and animate the sweep to taste.
                            • On the solid layer, set the Blend mode to something like Add or Screen, and THEN use the masked facet as a track matte by selecting Alpha Matte on the solid.  The masked facet layer will become invisible, but sweep will only show up on the one facet.  Track mattes are cool.

                             

                            Repeat the process for each facet desired.  Re-use the black solid if you want, tweaking the light sweep animation a bit to your taste.

                            • 11. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
                              sean3Dmonkey Community Member

                              You're awesome, Dave!  Why don't people sing songs about you on the radio?

                               

                              Sean

                              • 12. Re: need effect called Ice Fe Light Sweep for AE CS6
                                Dave LaRonde Community Member

                                Why don't people sing songs about you on the radio?

                                 

                                 

                                Ugh.  Who'd want to listen to it?  Beats me.

                                 

                                Well, here's one reason: I use an Anglicized pronunciation of the family name.  Just about the only thing that rhymes with "LaRonde" is "the pond".  After that one rhyme, it gets really ugly.