26 Replies Latest reply on Jul 5, 2018 11:57 PM by HarleyTDavis

    How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please

    toshimself1 Level 1

      Hello. I'm using Premiere for many years but I got stuck with this.

       

      I have a bunch of tracks with the video parts (music video) and I need to correct (color) some of these tracks with the Adjusment layer.

      But the adjusment layer affecting for all the tracks below!(

       

      Need your PRO help please.

        • 2. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
          dsfsdsdfsdffdsf Level 2

          I think you're going to have to lift all the footage you don't want corrected onto a track above the adjustment layer track. The only other option would be to shoot the project through to AE and get funky with precomposing adjustment layers or linking your CC filters with an expression.

          • 3. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
            toshimself1 Level 1

            Thanks Joe!

            The quote from your link "When you play the sequence, note that all the clips on the underlying tracks are affected by changes you made to the adjustment layer." So I dont need this

             

            Please look at this scheme, I've tried to describe the problem in this screenshot.

            https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26719799/11.png

            • 4. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
              toshimself1 Level 1

              PaulM-Aus

              Thanks for your suggestion.

              But if I'll lift my footage above (with the Adjutment layer) this adjustment layer will now affect to all the tracks below( so I have the same problem.

              Yes, I can do this with AE, but is there is no way to do the same "simple thing"  in Premiere only?

              • 5. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                dsfsdsdfsdffdsf Level 2

                So your situation is you've got two sets of clips and you want to apply an adjustment layer to each? In that case I'd wait till the edit was locked off, keeping your two sets of clips on separate layers, then duplicate the timeline, apply one adjustment layer overall and turn off the unwanted vision layer and do likewise in the other timeline, then combine the two. A bit complex but not too difficult to make revisions (just keep one of the two timelines as your master and slab copy paste any edit changes into the other). Alternatively just copy and paste the two grades individually. Either way there's lots of razoring and manual mouse/pen work but it shouldn't take you too long.

                • 6. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                  toshimself1 Level 1

                  Thanks, for this nice suggestion!

                  But anyway, the copy/paste work is a bit lazy in case when the cutting process will starts again..

                   

                  individually copy/paste you mean for each piece? its a lot of work, especially when I want to change whole color again.. do this again with each piece? Or I've something missed?

                  • 7. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                    Jim_Simon Level 9

                    Instead of adjustment layers, use nesting.

                     

                    1. Remove both Adjustment layers.

                    2. Select one track of clips, right click, Nest.

                    3. Repeat for the other track of clips.

                    4. Apply effects to the nested layers.

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                    • 8. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                      toshimself1 Level 1

                      Thanks, Jim Simon

                      I've been used nesting for many times before. And in that case I loosing the cutting process with all of the tracks in one time, because they are become a whole one track. And there is no option something about to get a fast "unnest" (

                      I need to cut and see all the pieces in tracks in one time to get the right time connection.

                      • 9. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                        Fuzzy Barsik Level 4

                        Just for the record:

                        1. There will be 'unnest' option in upcoming CC.

                        2. You are not prohibited from cutting nested sequence(s) instead of original clips.

                         

                        For example, you can drop all your unedited footages intended for the track 1 into a sequence and place an adjustment layer above. Similarly create another sequence for the track 2. Drop both sequences into a master sequence and cut your track 1 and track 2.

                         

                        Or being inside already edited master sequence borrow the creative idea from this Ann's tutorial and create 'Fast Cuts Restoring Tool' for your future nested sequence out of any sort of asset: an adjustment layer, black video, colour matte etc.

                        Keep it temporarily somewhere in an upper track. Then nest your track 1 clips with the 'full length' adjustment layer and apply 'Fast Cuts Restoring Tool' onto your brand new nested sequence. Repeat all the steps for your clips on track 2 (or whatever number it is).

                         

                        Well, you got the idea...

                        • 10. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                          toshimself1 Level 1

                          Fuzzy Barsik, thanks, it's nice idea, wow!)

                          But again this will works for one time to change, and when the nested will be cutted - and you'll want again changes - you must do this process again.

                           

                          All this ideas is not so hard, but all of them is goes through the "***"(

                           

                          The best thing I see is some "effect" for the Adjustment Layer (or whatever) where I can choose affect to separate tracks. Maybe Adobe guys can do something like this in next versions? Please? It must be very easy to do

                          • 11. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                            Steven L. Gotz Level 5

                            Actually, this sounds like an interesting feature request. I was about to say something stupid like "you can doubleclick on the nest and edit the original" when I realized that would make it impossible to see the whole thing in context.

                             

                            So, what would be cool would be a way to restrict an Adjustment layer to particular tracks. Kind of like the way we select a track matte. But one that would allow multiple tracks for each adjustment layer.

                             

                            Ooo. I can see how that might work pretty nicely.

                            • 12. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                              toshimself1 Level 1

                              Steven L. Gotz, thanks! Exactly what Im saying. That would be very cool, because for many years there were no real ability to color correct a bunch of cuts when you working in a huge project, its a problem. No youtube tutorials for now - how to work with a bunch of tracks and cuts, because all of this work goes only through the everyones creativity wich is not easy sometimes..

                               

                              The first big step from Adobe was - Adjustment Layers! That's a huge step, thank you, Adobe team! And there is just one small step needed - the some kind of plugin/effect/option wich will be restrict affect for selected tracks.

                              • 13. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                the_wine_snob Level 9

                                I also agree that this would be a good Feature Request, if not included in PrPro CC.

                                 

                                In Photoshop, one can link an Adjustment Layer to a regular Layer, so that it does NOT affect any other Layers below that Adjustment Layer. In Ps, it's just a matter of creating the Adjustment Layer above the Layer that one wishes to have it affect, then just Alt+click on the boundary between the Layer, that you wish to affect, and the Adjustment Layer.

                                 

                                This capability has been available, since Adjustment Layers were added to Ps. However, I do not know the coding differences between Ps's Adjustment Layers and those in PrPro - might be easy, or might not.

                                 

                                Good luck,

                                 

                                Hunt

                                • 14. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                  Fuzzy Barsik Level 4

                                  Irrespective of whether a targetable adjustment layer might be a nice feature to request, here is another workaround still based on the magic 'Fast Cuts Restoring Tool', but with no nesting:

                                  - keep your whole layer-cake in the master sequence;

                                  - when done editing your clips in the Track 1, create new adjustment layer for the track (if you are re-editing, delete all pieces of the previous adjustment layer for the track except very first one, drag its tail and expand so as to get 'full length' adjustment layer);

                                  - apply the 'Fast Cuts Restoring Tool' onto the brand new adjustment layer;

                                  - repeat the same steps for your clips on the Track 3 (or whatever number it is).

                                   

                                  The drawback (or maybe the feature): if you're dabbling with opacity in any way and clips from Track 1 and Track 3 overlap, the adjustment layer from the Track 4 will interfere.

                                  • 15. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                    tlangfordindk Level 1

                                    This is so obvious, it hurts...

                                     

                                    Anyone who's worked with Photoshop knows that the ability to apply an adjustment layer allows you to do things that are otherwise onerous, tedious or impossible. I hope that Adobe's developers are aware just how much this is needed within Premiere and are at this very moment coding it into the next release.

                                     

                                    So come on everyone, fill out a feature request at https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform and let's get this implemented!

                                    • 16. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                      DrewPost Level 1

                                      Yes, 3 year old thread... but a very useful one, because unfortunately that feature (target an adjustment layer to specific tracks) has never been implemented! All I can say is that I met Al Mooney (Premiere product manager) a week ago, and brought up the idea of applying effects at track level. He said "interesting idea".

                                       

                                      One thing that has been added is "master-side fx": the ability to add effects at the master clip level. Turns out it works for adjustment layers, too! So to add to the thread's list of workarounds, I sometimes like to throw an adjustment layer, chop it up so it's only above the clips I want to affect, and then any effect adjustment applies to the entire, customized section. It's worth it in certain circumstances.

                                      For some reason, masks are excluded from master-side fx. Hopefully it gets added in the future.

                                      • 17. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                        Richard M Knight Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                        I put in a feature request for 'effects groups', the ability to add group, say a or b or c....to a clip and then and then be able to add effects to that group. Any changes to the group effect settings would change for every clip in that group.

                                        • 18. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                          Lionel_pbb Level 1

                                          I just wanted to add that such a function would be wonderful! Maybe something similar to photoshop in which you can tell the program to only affect the layer underneath or something.

                                          • 19. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                            andrewrobertfitts Level 1

                                            It is really strange to me that this is not an obvious capability. It adds so much time when you have a long timeline and you only want to apply an adjustment layer to one track. I agree that nesting everything, by experience, is not helpful for me as a solution. All of the suggestions in here are hacks that don't really answer the original question, but it's nice that everyone is trying to help. Sometimes I wonder how much contextual usability testing adobe does with power users because I run into missing features on a regular basis. I'd love to see them try to handle premiere and ae the way that they are trying to have XD be user focused.

                                            • 20. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                              juicydbase Level 1

                                              Oh man! I can't believe I did not even think of that! Thank you with a million emoji's even if it's a temporary fix! Haha.

                                              • 21. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                                HarleyTDavis Level 2

                                                Hi everybody.  I too would see this as a great feature, to be able to link an adjustment layer to only the first layer below, it would allow me to work much more fluidly.

                                                That said...

                                                Depending on your adjustment, you could use the select and paste.  It's old, but it works.  You need to build the adjustment into the effects on a clip, copy the clip on the timeline, and then select all the clips on the timeline and Paste Effects\attributes\properties (cannot remember which) rather than Paste.  This should apply the effect to all the clips on that track.

                                                Downside: This has to be the first edit.  Basically, because it overwrites all the effects in all the clips, you'll have to perform all your common edits to one clip, then apply them to all the others using this paste style.

                                                • 22. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                                  Del_Boy Level 1

                                                  It's been an option in Photoshop for years. Mount an adjustment layer in the stack but specify it to affect only the layer directly under it.

                                                  • 23. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                                    Del_Boy Level 1

                                                    I'm not making any excuses for Adobe here, I think it is poor that you can't dedicate adjument layers to individual video layers and I'm in the same spot as you. Seeing as you can slice up the adjustment layer, I think I'm going to wait until I'm done my multicam selection then just cut out the adjustments when the camera switches

                                                    • 24. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                                      sergiorejtman Level 1

                                                      Hey guys, I FOUND A SOLUTION!!!

                                                       

                                                      It´s quite simple.

                                                       

                                                      1) Create a NEW SEQUENCE, and put the video to wich you want to apply the EFFECT or EFFECTS

                                                       

                                                      2) Don´t edit this video, live it as is inside that sequence

                                                       

                                                      3) Insert the NEW SEQUENCE in a track in your production and EDIT it as any video track

                                                      • 25. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                                        R Neil Haugen Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                                        Ahh, yes, that is "nesting".

                                                         

                                                        Neil

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                                                        • 26. Re: How to make adjustment layer affect only for one track? Please
                                                          HarleyTDavis Level 2

                                                          The function you are talking about is actually in Premiere, just not in the way you might think.  IF you look at photoshop, the layers are vertically aligned in a single STACK.  The STACK is how they get to the next step in the processing. One stack is equivalent to one TRACK in PREMIERE.   But TRACKS are HORIZONTAL and stretch according to TIME in Premiere (and in the photoshop video editor).  You can NEST stacks in photoshop by placing layers in "GROUPS" that are like a folder of layers.  You can have groups within groups, etc.  You can apply effects at the layer, and at the group level.  The group level applies to the entire groups output.  The outer STACK only does this with the TOP LAYER if it's an adjustment layer, or you can group the entirety first, then apply effects to that total output.

                                                          In Premiere:

                                                          Tracks are transport wrappers that split the frame information, then apply any effects at keyframe markers.  An adjustment layer is a CLIP.  Don't argue.  Clips and frames go onto tracks for transport.  An adjustment layer goes onto a track with a special instruction set to the FRAMESERVER and an alpha channel video that grabs the video immediately below.  The alpha channel is a transparent video, like a blank film sheet for an overhead projector.  The effects that go onto it are translucent, as the pixels that show through are affected by any effect on the film, but continue to show through.

                                                           

                                                          Just a thought:

                                                          You could apply the effect to the clip itself, within the track and copy\paste it to any other clips necessary.  (NOT MY RECOMMENDATION, just a thought)

                                                           

                                                          For your given situation:

                                                          To get your desired setting (an adjustment layer on a single track), remember that an adjustment layer is a clip like any other clip or image you place onto a track.  The track is the train that takes it to the processing chips.  Open a new sequence, put your video clips you want the layer to affect onto one track, then put the adjustment layer on the top track above them.  Replace the clips in the track in your original sequence with the new sequence you just created; it will act and function like a single clip.

                                                          Faster route:

                                                          Highlight and rightclick the section you want to apply an adjustment to.  Now select NEST, which will open a new sequence with the selected clips.  Now you can apply the adjustment layer to the track above them.

                                                           

                                                          I like this the way it is.  If you're looking for a more "my deadline is 10 minutes ago" software, pay $30 once for a cheap piece of software that'll leave your video a bit broken if you have VFR issues.  IF you're like me, the only part you're still looking for is the ability to render effects in the background.  I'll be asking about that in the feature forum.