4 Replies Latest reply on May 23, 2013 4:36 PM by rob day

    Color shift on random pages

    whitworth916 Level 1

      Hi Everyone,

      So I've been scouring the internet and the Adobe forums trying to find out a) what caused this and b) how can I fix it.

      I'm working on a document that is set in CMYK and uses vector graphics I have created on the Master Page. Every page uses the Master Page, however, for SOME reason, every other page, the color shifts. So far, all of the problems and solutions out there are in regards to color profiles... but how is this possible when it's the images on the Master page that is being altered, and it's random!

       

      On one page, the image is in what appears to be CMYK, then you go to the next page, and it's RGB! Then RGB on the next but then back to CMYK on the next! I've tried converting my profiles, I've even tried enabling pop up with profile mismatch solutions when it's reopened, I've tried changing the transparency settings from CMYK to RGB and back again, and nothing seems to work. It's really irritating and I'm about to scrap this whole document and start a new one and see if it continues to do that. But I really don't want to because we're 95% with the project.

       

      I would think that what ever it is set to in the Master page, it would remain consistent from one page to the next. And then if it was going from CMYK to RGB on ALL the pages, that's fine, I can fix that, but I can't get the pages to be consistent.

       

      Any help is very appreciative.

        • 1. Re: Color shift on random pages
          Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

          Could be a transparency blending space mismatch, perhaps....

          • 2. Re: Color shift on random pages
            rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            I'm working on a document that is set in CMYK...

             

            but how is this possible when it's the images on the Master page that is being altered, and it's random!

            InDesign doesn't have a document color space—you can mix CMYK, RGB, or Lab colors and images on the same page.

             

            The image on your master page could be an out-of-gamut RGB image. If you make pages from the master and add any transparent object to one of the pages the image would be displayed in the document's Transparency Blend Space. If the blend space is CMYK an RGB master image would display as document CMYK, but only on a page with transparency.

             

            When you select the image on the master what Color Space and ICC Profile show in the Links panel?

            • 3. Re: Color shift on random pages
              whitworth916 Level 1

              Ok, I double checked a lot of things and here is all the info:

               

              The vector file that I am using on the Master page (as a footer graphic) is RGB.

              All of the pages have some element overlaying it, some pages only have a text box that drops down to partially cover it (not the color part, a white area), and some have an image. But there is no consistency with this information as it literally just seems to be random pages. If it were text boxes causing the issue, wouldn't it affect all the pages that have text boxes touching this region?

              The Transparency blend is set to RGB.

              Here are some screenshots.

               

              Here is page 9 how it looks in InDesign showing all of the element box lines:

              Untitled-1-2.jpg

              And page 9 how it looks in the PDF:

              Untitled-2b.jpg

              Now, here is page 14 in InDesign:

              Untitled-1.jpg

              And page 14 in the PDF:

              Untitled-1b.jpg

               

              Thanks for your help Rob and Peter!

              • 4. Re: Color shift on random pages
                rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                So it looks like the shift is happening in the exported PDF not the ID layout. What are your export settings? Try PDF/X-4

                 

                Looks like your colors are out of the CMYK gamut so if you plan on sending this to a press the color will eventually be converted.