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1. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
John T Smith May 24, 2013 3:26 PM (in response to SteveH59)Sharing for Computer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1058237 might help
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2. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
A.T. Romano May 24, 2013 3:54 PM (in response to SteveH59)Steve
Pixel dimensions (width and height in pixles) are the only meanful parameters here.
What are the properties of the source media (frame size, frame rate - interlaced or progressive, aspect ratio, etc) for these 275 x 240 pixel movies that you want to display on your web site?
The key is to get them into the Premiere Elements 11 project so that they display without black borders in the Edit Mode Monitor space for editing purposes.
Once we get that accomplished, then you can set your export settings to include the frame size that you want along with other required settings. Have you selected a specific export type yet? Please supply the requested information. With that information I will offer a plan for the task.
Thanks.
ATR
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3. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 24, 2013 4:37 PM (in response to A.T. Romano)Hello AT Romano
Thanks for getting back to me.
The code that works for me with one movie looks like this:
<object type="video/x-ms-wmv" data="slowRace.wmv" width="275" height="240">
<param name="autostart" value="0">
<param name="uiMode" value="full">
<param name="autosize" value="1">
<param name="playcount" value="1">
<param name="controls" value="1">
<param name="ShowStatusBar" value="True"><video id="movie" src="slowRace.mp4" width=275 height=240 preload=none></video>
<video id="movie1" src="slowRace.swf" width=275 height=240 preload=none></video>
<video id="movie2" src="slowRace.ogv" width=275 height=240 preload=none></video>
<video id="movie3" src="slowRace.webm" width=275 height=240 preload=none></video>
<embed type="application/x-mplayer2" src="goldfish1.wmv" width="275" height="240" autostart="true" controls="true"
pluginspage="http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/MediaPlayer/">
</object>I will probably use swf files - I was just playing around with the .wmv file format - but I know that the above works on my Web page. So, instead of the Windows references in this code, I would be using 'application/x-shockwave-flash' and '
pluginspage="http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/">
Is that what you mean?
Thanks again.
Steve
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4. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 24, 2013 4:38 PM (in response to John T Smith)Thanks John T Smith
I'll check the link out.
Cheers
Steve
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5. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
A.T. Romano May 24, 2013 4:49 PM (in response to SteveH59)SteveH59
What I was after were details of what you are actually going to import into Premiere Elements for editing so that you can get a file to upload to your web site. We can go for a .wmv export file if you want, but first I wanted to get the source into the program in an appropriate workspace for editing.
For your source...
Frame Size
Frame Rate
interlaced or progressive
Pixel Aspect Ratio
Thanks.
ATR
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6. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 24, 2013 5:14 PM (in response to A.T. Romano)Hello ATR
These are the properties of the .wmv file I mention above.
These are the properties I can see. The Pixel Aspect Ratio is 1.0. I am not sure about 'interlaced or progressive'.
Basically, this is a clip from YouTube that I have applied a slow motion and audio effect to of my own - as I say, I am just experimenting with transitions and effects in Elements 11 and uploading them to a Web page.
Do you mean that once I have downloaded or captured a file I can apply effects/transitions to, I can predetermine in Elements 11 the various dimensions (height, etc) before working on it in Elements 11? I wouldn't know how to do that.
Thanks again.
Steve
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7. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
A.T. Romano May 24, 2013 6:36 PM (in response to SteveH59)Steve
For Premiere Elements (any version) that is considered an atypical frame size (360 x 264 pixels) and atypical frame rate (12 frames per second). Nonetheless, I will be back to your thread within the next two hours with something for you to try for your to achieve your goal.
To be continued...
ATR
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8. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 24, 2013 6:43 PM (in response to A.T. Romano)Many thanks ATR
Steve
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9. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
A.T. Romano May 24, 2013 7:12 PM (in response to SteveH59)SteveH59
The plan
Open Premiere Elements 11 Windows and go to File Menu/New/Project.
In the New Project Dialog that opens set for:
NTSC DV Standard
Before clicking OK to exit the New Project dialog, put a check mark next to "Force Selected Project Settings on this Project"
Then with Add Media, browse to and select your 360 x 264 pixels @ 12 frames per second source. It will go into Project Assets. From there you drag the clip to the Timeline Expert View.
Edit if you want or else continue to your choice for export. In this example, I am going to describe one with the specific criteria that you gave.
Publish+Share
Computer
Windows Media
From Presets, select "720 x 480 4:3 29,97"
Then go to the Advanced Button/Video Tab where we will go to work customizing the export preset. The suggested settings are:
This will give you a Windows Media Video 9.wmv 274 x 240 pixels @ 12 progressive frames per second. I had to make the width 274 instead of 275 since it had to be a multiple of 2.
This is just one example according to your specifications. There are many other possibilties. We can discuss other choices if this one is satisfactory and you want to explore others..
Please update us on your progress when you get a chance.
Thanks.
ATR
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10. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 24, 2013 7:42 PM (in response to A.T. Romano)Hello ATR
I have followed you as far as here:
Open Premiere Elements 11 Windows and go to File Menu/New/Project.
In the New Project Dialog that opens set for:
NTSC DV Standard
Before clicking OK to exit the New Project dialog, put a check mark next to "Force Selected Project Settings on this Project"
Then with Add Media, browse to and select your 360 x 264 pixels @ 12 frames per second source. It will go into Project Assets. From there you drag the clip to the Timeline Expert View.
Edit if you want or else continue to your choice for export. In this example, I am going to describe one with the specific criteria that you gave.
Publish+Share
Computer
Now, when I go to Computer, I do not see Windows Media.
First I converted from PAL to NTSC:
Then, when I got to Publish + Share | Computer, this is what I see:
As you can see, there is no Windows Media Video 9.wmv 274 x 240 pixels @ 12 progressive frames per second in that list.
That's where I am up to.
Steve
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11. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
A.T. Romano May 24, 2013 8:35 PM (in response to SteveH59)Steve,
It happens to many.
You are in Publish+Share/Computer/MPEG, not Publish+Share/Computer/Windows Media. There is more after Adobe Flash Video, MPEG, and AVCHD, You need to scroll down to the rest.
The lineup includes:
Adobe Flash Video
MPEG
AVCHD
AVI
Windows Media
QuickTime
Image
Audio
(Note: Do not forget to install the latest version of QuickTime on your computer with Premiere Elements.)
Thanks.
ATR
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12. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 24, 2013 8:55 PM (in response to A.T. Romano)Hello again ATR
I didn't notice that scrollbar, thanks.
I have almost mirrored what you have but my Export Settings are not quite the same as yours (red arrows):
You have been a magnificent help and certainly pointed me in the right direction for which I am grateful.
I will explore this again tomorrow (4.50am here) to see if I can get what you have shown me.
Many thanks again for all your help and patience (I have saved these pages).
Cheers
Steve
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13. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
A.T. Romano May 24, 2013 9:17 PM (in response to SteveH59)Steve
Please refer back to my screenshot in post #9.
Note that in this case there are 3 tabs under that Advanced Button
Audience
Video
Audio
Based on your screenshot in post #12, you are in the Audience, not the Video Tab. You want to be in the Video Tab.
I will be signing off now also. It is after midnight where I am. I will check in the light of day for further development with your project.
Thanks for the follow ups and staying with the troubleshooting.
ATR
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14. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 24, 2013 9:31 PM (in response to A.T. Romano) -
15. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
A.T. Romano May 25, 2013 6:13 AM (in response to SteveH59)Steve
One of the factors that influences file size is the Bitrate setting.
Note that you left the Bitrate at 1500 Kbps (kilobits per second). For the example, I used 3000 Kbps. It looks like my Bitrate setting is not shown in the screenshot that I posted for the suggested settings. I thought that I had included all of the bottom portion of the export settings dialog. Sorry about that.
The genealization is higher Bitrate, higher quality, but larger file size. And, lower Bitrate, less quality, and smaller file size.
The goal in this regard is to find the compromise between quality and file size.
Thanks for giving the suggestions a try.
ATR
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16. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 25, 2013 6:53 AM (in response to A.T. Romano)Hello ATR
Thanks for your explanation.
Today I will hopefully replicate what I did last night - carefully following what you have written - and will post the final result later!
Thanks
Steve
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17. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 25, 2013 9:46 AM (in response to SteveH59)Hello ATR
A different movie (just to experiment), but still a .wmv file.
I changed the settings to PAL DV Standard 48kHz because I think that's the default here (UK).
Standard PAL video (4.3 interlaced); 25 frames/sec; Pixel Aspect Ratio: D1/DV PAL (1.0940); Frame size: 720h 576v (1.0940).
I ticked (checked) the 'Force Selected Project Settings on this Project' and clicked OK.
Then I imported the video to the Expert Timeline, edited it, and the clicked Publish+Share | Computer | Windows Media and under Presets, I selected 720 x 480 4:3 29,97. Then to the Advanced Button where the following appeared:
Here I changed a couple of settings to meet my HTML video 'container' height/width dimensions which are width="275" height="240":
So, in Elements 'Export Settings', I changed the Frame height to 240px locked to a width of 360px (I know the movie will be longer than my HTML container - I am not sure what the Web site visitor will see in that case).Then I changed the frame rate to 25 (which is the original rate) and the Pixel Aspect Ratio to D1/DV PAL (1.0940) (which is what I had set it in above). I left everything else the same but changed the bitrate to 3000 as you have done (the file grew from 10MB to 18MB).
Thanks.
Steve
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18. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
A.T. Romano May 25, 2013 11:08 AM (in response to SteveH59)Steve,
Thanks for the follow up.
Please change the pixel aspect ratio to square pixels. That way you will then get the frame size that you used with any correction factor applied to it.
You can lower the bitrate if the file size is too large for your purposes, but the quality most likely will go down. In that type of situation, you will need to find a compromise between your file size and quality by adjusting the bitrate accordingly.
Please let us know if you are OK with the latest suggestions on what you just posted.
Thanks.
ATR
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19. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 25, 2013 11:56 AM (in response to A.T. Romano)Hello ATR
I have managed to change the Pixel Aspect to 'square' and compromised on 2100 bitrate.
Yes, I am fine with your suggestions - I am not in a position to argue! Hehehehe.
What I need to do is experiment with other formats and sizes and compromises and fine one that is appropriate for a Web page. The final outcome of this particular file is not too important - although I am happy with it. The most important thing is the method that you have showed me and that I can apply it to other files.
I will need to read up on Pixel Aspects and Average Video Bitrate, but you have pointed to their importance and I am grateful to you.
Thank you again for all you have done.
I have saved our discussion in my Favourites.
Steve
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20. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
A.T. Romano May 25, 2013 12:15 PM (in response to SteveH59)Steve
Thanks.
Do not hesitate to ask questions that evolve from your further exploration and experimenation with the suggested workflow.
ATR
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21. Re: Is it possible in Elements 11 - movie height/width question
SteveH59 May 25, 2013 12:46 PM (in response to A.T. Romano)Thanks ATR
You have been incredibly helpful.
Thanks a million.
Steve











