8 Replies Latest reply on Oct 28, 2007 9:41 AM by indieD

    page design

    indieD
      I operate Studio 8 bundled with Fireworks and Dreamweaver. I'm using Dreamweaver for my page design so I'm not sure why Fireworks was bundled. I was under the impression that Fireworks could do the actual page layout but now understand that is only a scaled down version of Photo Shop. Is there a program out there that allows you to layout page design in a graphic WYSIWYG environment that can be easilty imported into into Dreamweaver?

      Thanks,

      DC
        • 1. Re: page design
          Level 7

          "indieD" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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          >I operate Studio 8 bundled with Fireworks and Dreamweaver. I'm using
          > Dreamweaver for my page design so I'm not sure why Fireworks was bundled.
          > I was
          > under the impression that Fireworks could do the actual page layout but
          > now
          > understand that is only a scaled down version of Photo Shop.

          It's a 'different' version of Photoshop...one geared specifically for
          creating web graphics.

          > Is there a program
          > out there that allows you to layout page design in a graphic WYSIWYG
          > environment that can be easilty imported into into Dreamweaver?

          There's no such thing as WYSIWYG on the web. If you want to be a good web
          designer, you really have to learn HTML and CSS. After that, FW and DW are a
          breeze to use. Consider them 'helper' applications rather than 'doer'
          application.

          Otherwise, FW does produce HTML for you that you can import into DW. It's
          not great HTML. IT's bloated. And often hard to maintain, but it's an
          option.

          -Darrel


          • 2. Re: page design
            Level 7
            Darrel wrote:
            > "indieD" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
            > news:ffqf1m$dmj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
            >> I operate Studio 8 bundled with Fireworks and Dreamweaver. I'm
            >> using Dreamweaver for my page design so I'm not sure why Fireworks
            >> was bundled. I was under the impression that Fireworks could do the
            >> actual page layout but now understand that is only a scaled down
            >> version of Photo Shop.
            >
            > It's a 'different' version of Photoshop

            It is neither a scaled down version of Photoshop nor a "different"
            version of it. Fireworks is a unique creative application that includes
            functionality from all 3 of Illustrator, Photoshop and ImageReady. Its
            basic workflow (vector based) is actually closer to Illustrator than
            Photoshop.

            >> Is there a program out there that allows you to layout page design
            >> in a graphic WYSIWYG environment that can be easilty imported into
            >> into Dreamweaver?
            >
            > There's no such thing as WYSIWYG on the web.

            Yep, and the sooner you grasp this concept (whether you like it or not)
            the sooner you'll be productive producing effective Web sites.

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            • 3. Re: page design
              Level 7
              I'm not sure why Fireworks was bundled. I was
              > under the impression that Fireworks could do the actual page layout but
              > now
              > understand that is only a scaled down version of Photo Shop.

              Not exactly.

              See this article for a better understanding of Fireworks:
              http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/why_fireworks.html

              --
              Regards

              John Waller


              • 4. Re: page design
                Level 7
                It's not Photoshop, different or scaled down. It's Fireworks.

                http://www.communitymx.com/abstract.cfm?cid=33D67

                http://www.adobe.com/devnet/fireworks/articles/why_fireworks.html

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                • 5. Re: page design
                  Level 7
                  > It's not Photoshop, different or scaled down. It's Fireworks.

                  Yes, hence the quotes around my 'photoshop'

                  Photoshop, these days, is more than a particular product name. It's a verb.
                  A generic noun. Etc.

                  -Darrel


                  • 6. Re: page design
                    Level 7
                    > Photoshop, these days, is more than a particular product name. It's a
                    > verb. A generic noun. Etc.

                    Only in the vernacular though.

                    When it comes to branding, Adobe is quite definite on how they want the term
                    to be used:
                    http://www.adobe.com/misc//trade.html#photoshop


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                    Regards

                    John Waller


                    • 7. Re: page design
                      Level 7
                      > Only in the vernacular though.

                      Which is usually all that matters. ;o)

                      > When it comes to branding, Adobe is quite definite on how they want the
                      > term to be used:
                      > http://www.adobe.com/misc//trade.html#photoshop

                      As is Kleenex, Frisbee, Google and Xerox. Oh well. ;0)

                      -Darrel


                      • 8. Re: page design
                        indieD Level 1
                        I appreciate your valued input. It has been years since I wrote HTML code so I guess I'll have brush up and get back in the game.

                        Thanks

                        DC