20 Replies Latest reply: May 29, 2013 10:23 AM by neil wilkes RSS

    escaping a looped video on a dvd

    Soshman Community Member

      Hello,

       

      I just built a DVD anbd had two of the videos loop. They Loop Fine when in the DVD player...but if someone is done watching the loop

      to get out they must stop the DVD completely and start the DVD from the beginning.

       

      I pushed the menu button on the DVD remote...but it just started the loop again.

       

      Is this normal? or is there another way?

       

      I search the forums and didnt find anything about this

       

      Thanks,

       

      Mark

        • 1. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
          neil wilkes MVP

          Hiya Mark.

           

          What have you set the Menu Remote button to do in the timelines that are looping?

          You probably have them set to restart, and this could be the cause of the problem - can you post a screenshot of your flowchart please?

          • 2. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
            Soshman Community Member

            Hey Neil!

             

            Sorry...i didnt know there was a Menu Remote button that could be programed.

             

            At least you have given me a place to start looking :-)

             

            Thanks,

             

            Mark

            • 3. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
              neil wilkes MVP

              If you select the timeline for the looping videos, you should see the "Menu Remote" option in the properties.

              It is important to make sure you have got the timeline selected - not the video file on it's own.

              Set this to where you want the user to end up - probably the main menu.

              • 4. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                Soshman Community Member

                Perfect!

                 

                Thanks again Neil :-)

                 

                Mark

                • 5. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                  Soshman Community Member

                  New Information

                   

                  Looking at it now the timeline menu remote is last menu...this is fine

                   

                  i built a playlist that was loopable...that is where i need an exit from if possible

                   

                  Thanks,

                   

                  Mark

                  • 6. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                    neil wilkes MVP

                    So it's a looping menu then?

                    I would just add another button with a call to Main Menu on it......

                    • 7. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                      Soshman Community Member

                      It is a playlist of 3 timelines....74 minutes in length

                       

                      People asked me to make the video with a certain audio playing so they could just have it play continuously in the background.

                       

                      So built a playlist and made it work. It loops just fine

                       

                      I put the end action of the playlist as the beginning of the same playlist.

                       

                      Problem is ....once someone plays the looping playlist...the only button

                      on the DVD player that works ( besides FF and REW ) is the Stop button.   The menu button

                      goes to the beginning of the current timeline within the playlist.

                       

                      I had a friend take it home last night to review the DVD and all the buttons and his machine does it too.

                       

                      So i was wondering if i missed a setting to let the viewer go back to the menu if they want.

                       

                      Personally my thinking is....if they are playing the DVD in the background looping for hours ...and the

                      want out of the loop....its really not that big of a deal to stop the DVD and start it from the beginning to get into the main menu. But...as i have been selling many DVD's over the years....i know we will get customers writing and calling. My plan is to put an insert in the DVD and making a short video on how to watch the DVD and make it clear in that as well.

                       

                      BUT...if i can fix it...even better :-)

                       

                      Thanks!

                       

                      Mark

                      • 8. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                        Stan Jones MVP

                        Neil, it looks to me like there is no menu remote option for a playlist, right?

                        • 9. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                          neil wilkes MVP

                          I don't honestly remember to be frank - and that machine is currently churning away at an MPEG-2 render.

                          That is kinda why I suggested a "Main Menu" button for escape - I always use a cop-out button oin every submenu, as you cannot be sure the "Menu Remote" button will work properly because that button should always go to the root menu in the current VTS.....but Encore, being an abstraction layer tool, turns every timeline into it's own VTS (Hence the 99 timeline limitation)

                           

                          @Mark.

                          When you say "The menu button goes to the beginning of the current timeline within the playlist." you must have programmed it to do this, surely?

                          What have you got the "TITLE" setting programmed to do? (I am thinking that this is currently set to the timeline & not the main menu).

                          It may be worth trying to set this option to the main menu - but as I said before the way these buttons work on players can vary. It is supposed to be as follows:

                          TOP MENU/TITLE - the Main Menu of the disc.

                          MENU = the root menu of the current VTS.

                          Not only does the usage vary, some manufacturers use different names as well - Denon & Oppo use "MENU/TOP MENU", Cambridge Audio use "MENU/TITLE".

                          Now, ordinarily TITLE should be the same as TOP MENU, and MENU should be the same - yet Encore is an abstraction layer tool so the whole thing is a little blurry around the edges as instead of the author creating each VTS & deciding what content goes in each one, Encore simply turns every timeline into it's own unique VTS. This has it's pros & cons. The GUI gives you a TITLE option on all menus so that could be used to get the user to the main menu byu using the pickwhip & just setting it.

                           

                          I would still put a button on the looping menu though, as you are bound to get some user somewhyere who will say "it doesn't work" or "I get stuck" if you do not.

                          A button is a clear, visible indicator......

                          • 10. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                            Stan Jones MVP

                            I would still put a button on the looping menu though,

                            I think the menu isn't looping; it is a playlist with 3 timelines in it that is looping. What he wants is for the menu remote to go back to the main menu. But Encore doesn't provide an option for putting a menu remote command on a playlist.

                             

                            I don't know why it does not work to put the menu remote for each timeline to the main menu. Perhaps since a playlist overrides a timeline's end action...

                            • 11. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                              Soshman Community Member

                              Thats right Stan.

                               

                              Its the playlist with three timelines that loops....and no... i did not see any option for the menu remote to go back to the main menu.

                               

                              I looked at it pretty good but thought i might have missed something thus why i posted.

                               

                              I think it is the playlist having top override that causes this.

                               

                              Would be a great option for people who might want to loop different videos within a DVD.

                               

                              When i did trade shows for years it would have been a great option over the 1 video looping all day...everyday.

                              • 12. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                                neil wilkes MVP

                                Stan Jones wrote:

                                 

                                I would still put a button on the looping menu though,

                                I think the menu isn't looping; it is a playlist with 3 timelines in it that is looping. What he wants is for the menu remote to go back to the main menu. But Encore doesn't provide an option for putting a menu remote command on a playlist.

                                 

                                I don't know why it does not work to put the menu remote for each timeline to the main menu. Perhaps since a playlist overrides a timeline's end action...

                                Ah - I gotcha now.

                                There may still be a workaround though - even though we are using our VTS as timelines in a playlist, each of those timelines can still have a MENU command set to them in properties. I may be wide of the mark, but this implies to me that if each timeline in the playlist is selected in turn and has it's Menu Remote setting programmed it ought to work as expected - as you say the playlist is over riding the end action of the timelines - but it is not (hopefully) over riding the menu remote call. That should still function.

                                It simply means that each tiomeline has to have this option set instead of doing it globally in the playlist.

                                 

                                Does that make sense?

                                • 13. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                                  Stan Jones MVP

                                  each of those timelines can still have a MENU command set to them in properties. I may be wide of the mark, but this implies to me that if each timeline in the playlist is selected in turn and has it's Menu Remote setting programmed it ought to work as expected

                                  I thought this is what Mark had done; and it takes him back to the timeline.

                                   

                                  Mark, if that is not what you did; try it!

                                  • 14. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                                    neil wilkes MVP

                                    I thought it read differently I must say.....

                                    If it is set to "Last Menu" this may be the problem - a playlist is really a kind of "special object" and I suspect it is a sort of "special menu" with specific functionality.

                                    I would set it (each timeline in the playlist) to a specific "main menu" from the drop-down/manual selection arrow rather than "last menu".....

                                    • 15. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                                      Soshman Community Member

                                      Because i use the timelines in other projects..i put menu remotes on all timelines as return to last menu.

                                       

                                      When i press the looping video button on the DVD menu page...it loops fine. When i press the menu button on the remote On any of the timelines playing within the playlist.....the video that plays is the beginning of the timline i happen to be watching. So when it goes to timeline#1 and i hit the menu button it goes to the beginning of timeline #1...if i am watching timeline #2 in the playlist and hit the menu button...it goes to the beginning of timeline#2 STILL within the playlist etc.

                                       

                                      Make sense?

                                      • 16. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                                        Soshman Community Member

                                        OK i will give that a go Neil and let you know what happens!

                                         

                                        Thanks!

                                        • 17. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                                          Soshman Community Member

                                          Your a genius!  It worked perfectly:-)

                                           

                                          I changed all the timelines to remote...main page

                                           

                                          I went thought the 3 timelines and hit menu on the remote

                                          and all went right to the main menu

                                           

                                          So it looks like that overrides timelines

                                           

                                          Thanks so much!!!

                                           

                                          Less customer complaints...YES!

                                           

                                          Mark

                                          • 18. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                                            Stan Jones MVP

                                            Yes he is!

                                             

                                            My understanding of this now is that nothing is being overriden; the menu remote just needed to know which menu you wanted, rather than "last menu" which got sidetracked by the playlist code.

                                            • 19. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                                              Soshman Community Member

                                              Sounds right Stan!

                                               

                                              Thanks to you as well :-)

                                              • 20. Re: escaping a looped video on a dvd
                                                neil wilkes MVP

                                                Kaleidsoscopic!!