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1. Re: Is there a shot list?
Rashi-Story Team Jun 13, 2013 1:21 AM (in response to EckleySP)Hi,
The current workflow in Story is that you add 'Camera shots' in your script , from which you create a schedule, sort/arrange it in the order you need to shoot the scenes and then generate reports from it , thereby getting the shot list in shooting order. Yes, the assumption throughout is that you are shooting considering each scene as one entity.Here you generally have one setup or location in any given scene or you may be using a multilocation scene.
This is infact the first we have heard about shooting according to shots and not scenes. How do you manage actors,their dialogues, props etc in such a scenario?
It would be great if you could explain your workflow a bit more, so that we can understand this more accurately and either add a feature to our backlog or provide you a workaround.
For now, to arrange your shots according to 'location' sort the schedule created from your script based on 'Studio/Location' and 'Set' (Use the 'Sort' option present on the upper left hand side of schedule). You may also drag drop scenes or sort by some other column; whichever suits your needs . Try creating a camera card report now from this schedule.
Let me know in case you face any difficulty.
Thanks
Rashi
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2. Re: Is there a shot list?
EckleySP Jun 13, 2013 6:27 AM (in response to Rashi-Story Team)Thank you for the reply.
In my case, I have three different scenes which take place at the same location, same actors. Each scene consists of a two person dialog which I want to shoot several times. I don't have two cameras, so at mimimum I would have to shoot Over The Shoulder (OTS) twice - once behind each actor. There might be another shoot of both in the same frame. In addition, there are various dolly shots of each actor. Each shot may entail a different setup - lights, lenses, dolly track, etc. Just shooting over the shoulder of one and then over the shoulder of the other will require lights moving around - not to mention the camera.
It would be efficient if I could shoot the OTS shot of Actor 1 from all three scenes, then switch to OTS shot of Actor 2 for all three scenes, then setup the track for Dolly Setup 1 for all three scenes, then change it for Dolly Setup 2, etc.
I am not an experienced film maker, and Lord knows, there are many ways to get to the same end, but I've read quite a bit about pre-production and specifically about bulding a shot list, they all say that for efficency sake, Location, then Setup, are key to the order in which you shoot. I would be interested in other's comments about how they order the shots for their productions - or how they would shoot the example above.
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3. Re: Is there a shot list?
Rashi-Story Team Jun 14, 2013 12:25 AM (in response to EckleySP)This explains your use case very well and we would try to find a more staright forward solution for such cases. Meanwhile here are some of my suggestions which may help you to move forward -
1) Since you are using one camera only the 'Camera' field in shots doesn't hold much signifucance. So you may use it in an alternate way. Assign some numbers/strings to each setup you are using, for example say '1' for OTS shots of 'Actor 1' , '2' for 'Actor2', 'DS1' for Dolly setup 1 etc. Key in these in the 'Camera' filed of your shots. Since camera cards list the shots according to the 'Camera' being used (in your case it would be different setups) it would automatically separate out shots with same setup together.
2) Here you are reshooting one scene multiple times. So to manage it well you can duplicate these scenes in your script. Since it would be the same scene occuring multiple times you can use the 'A' ,'B' numbering scheme. To do this go to 'Prodution' menu -> 'Manage scene numebrs' and make sure the option 'Keep existing scene numbers' is enabled.Now if you copy paste say scene 2 again (in between scene 2 and 3), it would be numbered as '2A' and rest of the scene numebrs would not be disturbed. So as a result all your duplicate scenes would be numbered in a particular manner and could be easily distinguished.
3) Now you would have to screen these duplicates for what you need out of them . If you need to shoot only a few dialogs, just keep those and delete the rest. Similarly keep only the shots of a particular setup, or the ones you need to shoot in one go in that instance of the scene. You may enter information for you reference in 'Notes' section of the properties panel for each scene (View-> Properties Panel). Also if you need certain props/items for that particular setup you may add 'Tags' accordingly.
4) Now you can create a schedule from this script and sort / arrange it according to your shooting plan. All the information you entered in the script (tags, notes etc) will flow into your schedule and hence the reports. Camera cards too will now be sorted according to the setup and the day you plan to shoot it.
What we have done here is basically arrange you scenes in such a manner that one particular instance of scene can be shot in one go , as one enity. I think it would be much easier for you to manage this way, with full functionality of schedule and reports at your disposal.
Please tweak this as it suits you and let me know if it worked or not, or in case you are stuck somewhere.
Thanks
Rashi


