10 Replies Latest reply: Jun 14, 2013 1:02 PM by Peter Spier

How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

John Nez Jun 14, 2013 9:39 AM

I have an Indesign document that I want to print with a slight border around the edge.

I print this after exporting it as a PDF. But when I choose the various combinations of 'print printer's marks' in the export settings, none of them seem to work.

I want just a simple thin border line around the edge of the document to print. I don't want the interior body to print (which it sometimes does).

I know this can be done, because on some of my .indd documents it works... but I can't figure out what I did to get it to print that way.

HELP!

and thanks....

1. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

Preran Jun 14, 2013 9:41 AM (in response to John Nez)

Moving your query to the InDesign forum. The experts here are better placed to answer your question.

Thanks,
Preran
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2. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

SRiegel Jun 14, 2013 9:54 AM (in response to John Nez)

If I understand what you are asking, you just need to include bleed in your export and/or print settings.
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3. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

John Nez Jun 14, 2013 10:05 AM (in response to SRiegel)

I have the Indesign document export settings set to 'include document bleed settings'.

But it still won't print with a thin black line around the edge.

Instead it prints with the thin purple interior body area on each page that is set about 1" in from the edge.

jn
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4. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

SRiegel Jun 14, 2013 10:08 AM (in response to John Nez)

can you post some screen shots with guides turned on? I don't really understand what's happening.
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5. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

Ellis home Jun 14, 2013 10:51 AM (in response to John Nez)

I think the purple interior is printing because you have checked in Export Adobe PDF/General at the bottom: Include/Visible Guides and Baseline Grids. I would draw a rectangle around the bleeds and give it a 0.25pt line. But it will be interesting to know a method of printing the bleeds without doing that.
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6. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

John Nez Jun 14, 2013 12:14 PM (in response to Ellis home)

Here are the two files. Both are the same size. I pasted the two scans together into this one image. They only appear on printing.
I am printing from the PDF that I make from the .indd file.

One has a border (which I want).
The other lacks any border line, but instead has a purple rectangle in about 1" from the page edge.

I can't figure out what settings I have on these two documents to cause this. And Indesign has so many buttons to click I can't figure out.

Thanks....

jn
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7. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

Ellis home Jun 14, 2013 12:27 PM (in response to John Nez)

The second one is caused I think, for the reason I mentioned above. You need to check your settings in the Export Adobe PDF. In the first one, check if there are any frames with border applied. Although I'm not sure why it's showing solid lines only on three sides of the frame.
Also check if there's a frame in your master page.
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8. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

John Nez Jun 14, 2013 12:54 PM (in response to Ellis home)

Thanks... the visible guides setting change took away the purple interior rectangle.
But it still doesn't print the border outline.

Here in text form is a summary of the .indd file settings that does print a border correctly, as I like it to.
The relevant paragraph under Marks and Bleed has crop marks off... and document bleed settings on.

I wonder what I'm missing? Sometimes I wished Adobe just used plain english... like 'print border outline of document'!

Thanks!

jn

Print Preset: [Default]
Printer: Canon Pro9000
PPD: N/A
PPD File: N/A

General
    Copies: 1
    Collate: N/A
    Reverse Order: Off
    Pages: N/A
    Sequence: N/A
    Spreads: On
    Print Master Pages: Off
    Print Layers: Visible & Printable Layers
    Print Non-printing Objects: Off
    Print Blank Pages: Off
    Print Visible Guides and Baseline Grids: Off

Setup
    Paper Size: US Letter
    Paper Width: 8.5 in
    Paper Height: 11 in
    Page Orientation: Portrait
    Paper Offset: N/A
    Paper Gap: N/A
    Transverse: N/A
    Scaling: 100%
    Constrain Proportions: On
    Page Position: Upper Left
    Thumbnails: Off
    Tiling: Off

Marks and Bleed
    Crop Marks: Off
    Bleed Marks: Off
    Registration Marks: Off
    Color Bars: Off
    Page Information: Off
    Printer Mark Type: Default
    Crop Mark Weight: 0.25 pt
    Mark Offset from Page: 0.0833 in
    Use Document Bleed Settings: On
    Bleed Top: 0 in
    Bleed Bottom: 0 in
    Bleed Left: 0 in
    Bleed Right: 0 in
    Include Slug Area: Off

Output
    Color: Composite RGB
    Text As Black: Off
    Trapping: N/A
    Flip: N/A
    Negative: N/A
    Screening: N/A
    Simulate Overprint: Off

Graphics
    Send Data: Optimized Subsampling
    Download: N/A
    Download PPD Fonts: N/A
    PostScript®: N/A
    Data Format: N/A

Color Management
    Document Profile: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
    Color Handling: Let InDesign Determine Colors
    Printer Profile: Document RGB
    Preserve RGB Numbers: Off
    Proof Profile: N/A
    Simulate Paper Color: N/A

Advanced
    Print &as Bitmap: On
    Bitmap Resolution: 300
    OPI Image Replacement: N/A
    EPS: N/A
    PDF: N/A
    Bitmap Images: N/A
    Transparency Flattener Preset: N/A
    Ignore Spread Overrides: N/A
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9. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

Peter Spier Jun 14, 2013 1:02 PM (in response to John Nez)

The only way that border could find its way into your PDF is if it's also in your document You've got a frame someplace with a strole applied to act as the border.

And the only way it will print is if it's actually in the printable area of the page on the printer, so it's not likley to show up on a letter-sized document printed on letter-sized paper.
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10. Re: How to to print an .indd document with a border around the edge?

John Nez Jun 14, 2013 1:09 PM (in response to Peter Spier)

That's it! Yes, I see now that I had applied a stroke to the master page in the file with a border.
I created the first document years ago, so I forgot about it and it doesn't really show up except when it's printed.

So now with the new file I just applied a frame and stroked a 1 point line to the master frame in the document.

Now it prints the way I wanted.

THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR HELP!
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